"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Took a girl back to my place after bar..

Drummer93

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Last night i was at the bar and the place was flooded with sausages so i noticed this girl that had 3 dudes putting her up on a pedestal and she wasnt amused. Anyways she glanced at me and i winked at her then turned my back by playing pool with my buddies. After she dismissed the boys, she approached me and it was a great feeling seeing them boys in disbelief. We chatted, didn't put all my attention on her but she kept pressing, at this point i knew she wanted me.

After getting her number, i dismissed her and focused on my buddies. She responded "thats it??", i responded with "Yeah, you're welcome to stay and hang out if you're bored". Her and her friend walked away but later came back. She continued to approach me and this point i noticed she drank a lot but had a high level of attraction. It was getting late and i offered to drive her home, she hestitated and i pulled away. After chatting with her friend, she decided to leave with me.

After dropping my buddy off, we went back to my place for a drink. She brought up relationships which turned me off. Warned me she is damaged, been cheated on..etc. She even asked me how many women ive been with and i dismissed it by saying its none of her business (she later regretted asking). Anyways she starts moving towards me, made out but provided LMR for anything else... I expected it and moved on. I let her stayed the night and that was it.

Next morning, she starts making out with me, says she appreciates me respecting her boundies and i jokingly said the same.

This is where it gets weird...

She starts telling me to not get my hopes up and that she thinks negative alot, not ready, scared...etc. I told her to slow down, dont jump to conclusions and take one day at a time. She said to forget what she said and i moved on from it. Dropped her off at home and thats it.

The girl is hott, has potential but jumps to assumptions and overthinks alot, probably been with some feminine guys before. How long should i wait to invite her out for a drink?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Drummer93

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Don't. This girl is clearly more invested in you, so use that to your advantage. After all, that is what attracted her to you in the first place.

Instead, make sure she has your number. A simple text to her saying "Hey it's Drummer93" would suffice. Then wait for her to initiate. If after a week or so she doesn't, then invite her to grab a drink at your place.

Be warned though, she sounds a little whack. She's already thinking / visualizing a relationship with you, so play it cool and stay aloof as she's highly invested
Interesting.. She has my number, everytime i get a girls number i always dial her phone so she has mine and doesnt play the old "who is this??" game.
 

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I spoke too soon..

Update: She text me after midnight.. You know what that means..
 

old_skoolr

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I don't get how you didn't fvck her that night or at least the next morning.

Rule of thumb: If there not at your house to fvck, then they must be about to leave.
 

SuckItUp

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ABC ... Glengary Glenross

When a woman tells you her problems that's never a good sign. I would be wary of this one as she's giving off the run to the hills vibe.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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CMNILS87

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You worried more about what she was thinking and scaring her off then what you wanted, and that was sex. Classic Anti slut defense mechanism with all women. Took me a few times too. If she says, were not having sex tonight" just agree and amplify. Back off and come back and feel her up again. Here's the kicker, if you really want to fcuk with her, reverse rolls and if she starts to get touchy feely, push away and tell her "that you're more than just a hot body and have feelings". Puts her on edge cause you're teasing and she's not sure where you're thinking. Escalate from there

**shes got severe issues with confidence and maybe partially depressed about herself/life. Fwb Max dude, not dating material
 

Yewki

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Sounds like she's a bit mental, bang quickly and get out
 

marmel75

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You did awesome up until the point you didn't bang her either that night or the next morning. She knows why she was there and what you wanted. Showing you were too afraid to go for it never helps your cause.

Agree with others, she sounds whacked out...just try and bang her, but let her do the chasing.
 

spiegel549

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Last night i was at the bar and the place was flooded with sausages so i noticed this girl that had 3 dudes putting her up on a pedestal and she wasnt amused. Anyways she glanced at me and i winked at her then turned my back by playing pool with my buddies. After she dismissed the boys, she approached me and it was a great feeling seeing them boys in disbelief. We chatted, didn't put all my attention on her but she kept pressing, at this point i knew she wanted me.

After getting her number, i dismissed her and focused on my buddies. She responded "thats it??", i responded with "Yeah, you're welcome to stay and hang out if you're bored". Her and her friend walked away but later came back. She continued to approach me and this point i noticed she drank a lot but had a high level of attraction. It was getting late and i offered to drive her home, she hestitated and i pulled away. After chatting with her friend, she decided to leave with me.

After dropping my buddy off, we went back to my place for a drink. She brought up relationships which turned me off. Warned me she is damaged, been cheated on..etc. She even asked me how many women ive been with and i dismissed it by saying its none of her business (she later regretted asking). Anyways she starts moving towards me, made out but provided LMR for anything else... I expected it and moved on. I let her stayed the night and that was it.

Next morning, she starts making out with me, says she appreciates me respecting her boundies and i jokingly said the same.

This is where it gets weird...

She starts telling me to not get my hopes up and that she thinks negative alot, not ready, scared...etc. I told her to slow down, dont jump to conclusions and take one day at a time. She said to forget what she said and i moved on from it. Dropped her off at home and thats it.

The girl is hott, has potential but jumps to assumptions and overthinks alot, probably been with some feminine guys before. How long should i wait to invite her out for a drink?
This girl SCREAMS one night stand. You did great! Once in my place I would of played along, banged her brains out (which you did right???) and then drop her off and forget her. She sounds coo coo. lol.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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marmel75

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This girl SCREAMS one night stand. You did great! Once in my place I would of played along, banged her brains out (which you did right???) and then drop her off and forget her. She sounds coo coo. lol.
He didn't bang her, did you actually read what he wrote?
 
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