"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Too much too fast?

StrongBad

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Hey guys, quick question that I'd appreciate opinions on.

Met a girl, set up a date, and things went very well on the actual date last night. We ended up really hitting it off and were making out pretty intensely by the end of the night. She kept mentioning how much fun she was having and kept complimenting me on my looks, humor, etc.

Now, she just got in touch with me via email asking if I wanted to hang out tomorrow. It would be an all day type thing, going to the beach and probably out to some bars and stuff later. Now, obviously this is a sign of high interest but should I space things out some more? Or should I just strike while the iron is hot to keep her interest up? Any chance that hanging out too much at first could be negative? Thanks...
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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blinkwatt

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Make up an excuss not to hang out with her all day. Go the bars with her at night,chances are you will get laid. Just tell her you have some "business" to take care of during the day.
 

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Ya I'd say something to the effect that you already have plans for the day but could possibly meet up later that night or suggest another day. It seems a bit fast to me as well.
 

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If you accept the date for the next day, it tells her that your not a prize and you don't have other girls chasing you so you have time for her. Do not accept for the next day, say your busy but offer the next night. Do things on your terms, your the man, she wants you to take control.

Her IL isn't going to decrease by making her wait a day, in fact it will increase because she will realize she has to do everything right to win you from the other girls.
 
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