"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Too much interest..

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Theres this girl from a dating site that adds me to msn. we talk every now and then . right from the get go she keeps wanting to get together, come see her etc .but i was at a point where i didnt want to get serious with any womens due to certain reasons . after trying to get with me , being flirty , **** like that . i come home from 4 days of partying completley drained. she comes online askes me to come over cuz she was gonna go to some scary house or whatever. im like fine , lets go see what shes all about.

i get there, she doesnt look like her pics on her profile about 100 pounds bigger , we make even more small talk .we start watchin some movie cuz apparently her other friend doesnt want to go to said scary house. im like uhh ok . we started watchin the movie . im lyin beside her. i have my hand over her side (were both lyin on our sides on teh bed). she startes movin my hand all over the place on her , lickin my fingers , putin them on her crotch. we started to make out . i fingered her . started makin out more . she then says she cant 'finish me off" because she wants to kno that i want to be serious first. im like great shes trying to lock me into something here. half of me is sayin get the **** out of here right now . the other half is sayin this is kinda cool tho cuz ive never done any of this.

we barley watched the movie . i leave , we kiss . get home wash up .find a message askin if im home yet and to call her . im like **** no . go to sleep with my severe case of blue balls. wake up the next morning with a phone call from her. This pisses me off , she wont leave me alone for a while.

the other thing is , after this night im still not physically attracted to her, tho she says shes attracted to me . im definatly in the just want to be friends stage. but im afraid after all that happened , it could cause some serious **** to happen. Have any of you guys had this happen before . and what did you do?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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she doesnt look like her pics on her profile about 100 pounds bigger...


thats all I needed to hear. Cut off contact. Unless she's got a REAL good face.
 
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Originally posted by Big Eee Zee
she doesnt look like her pics on her profile about 100 pounds bigger...


thats all I needed to hear. Cut off contact. Unless she's got a REAL good face.
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LOL. Yo wat dating site was this?
 
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now you have obviously raised the bar for this poor girl. the only time she will do as good as you again, is when some other fool falls in to her web of lies and deceit and he too feels the pity that led you to befoul yourself upon this beast.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I'm kinda in a similar situation, wanting to be just friends with a girl when she clearly wants more, but I met her at some party not over the internet.

Its an interesting and ironic situation, there is pretty much no advice around here for this kind of situation usually it is the opposite. I have no idea what to do either..
 
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Yeah you got that right.. lol
 
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thx for the comments guys and yes , i was kinda startled when her pics didnt match quite with her profile . we were just watchin a movie and **** happened. but i seriously just want to be friends but dont want her to freak out on me . Just **** she said makes it seem like she wants alot more than what im interested in . and not that have somethin against over weight girls , she just doesnt seem like my type. she seems clingy and i dont want that . i just want to come off as an ******* and takin advantage of a situation. yes nice guy i kno , but hey i wouldnt want it to happen to me . but keep the comments comin guys .

and the site was casualkiss.com . its a north american , mostly ontario dating site . but theres other ppl too .
 
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Any of you notice a pattern here? How is it that women/girls have no problem turning down a man who lies about his age/looks/intentions, etc. but a guy will stick it out and end up makin' out and fingering one that is 100 lbs. overweight. Do you think for a moment that an average to above average to a hottie would be ok with a guy blatantly lying and still overlook it and end up wanting to get see him again, or even get intimate?

There was a post recently about how fatties are very selective and have high standards, perhaps some of you guys could learn something from these wild beasts. Be selective. There is an unlimited supply of women, they are not a scarce resource; many here act like that's the last chance they'll get at fooling around.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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ok i just put a cap on this after considering some stuff . but now she has brought up something called friends with benefits . what the hell does this mean . is it a trap . is it a bad idea? explain. and my search didnt turn up much.
 
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Friends with benefits means she will be friends, like you want, but she still wants sex, in some form or fashion. Kinda goes against what she told you was the reason she wouldn't "finish you off." It's probably not something you want, I imagine.
 
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Originally posted by frivolousz21
what a fat HOG!

have Jrprpr train her fat arse :woo:
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Even I have my limitations. I also don't want to end up in bed with this behemoth. She sounds somewhat manipulative...

It is true what the other poster said. Fat women think they're the ****. They have no problem being obese, and requiring their man to be in excellent shape. I always thought this was kind of like a person who never takes a shower, requiring their partner to be very hygienic.......
 
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Originally posted by jprjrjr
Even I have my limitations. I also don't want to end up in bed with this behemoth. She sounds somewhat manipulative...

It is true what the other poster said. Fat women think they're the ****. They have no problem being obese, and requiring their man to be in excellent shape. I always thought this was kind of like a person who never takes a shower, requiring their partner to be very hygienic.......
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Exaclty, why is it that nobody is talking about the real issue here? Fat/obese women will have their standards, yet the guys in here don't even want to talk about their lack thereof.

If fat women can act and be picky, but the men will settle and conform to that, where is the pride and dignity of the men in here? We know who has the HIGHER STATUS/VALUE in those interactions.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Personally i wouldnt do any girl over a size 10. Im not sure if Australian sizes are the same as american sizes. Size 10 is pretty small.
 
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