"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Too Laid Back?

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I know chics dig the "i don't give a shvt" attitude, but is it possible to be too laid back? I think I tend towards this extreme. Rather than act like the desperate puppy dog, I tend to have the whatever goes, just chill, no expectations attitude on dates. Does this get interpreted as passiveness? Also, how the heck do you Kino a girl sitting across the table on a coffee shop date? Seems sorta hard to do and an ackward place to do it.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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DonJohn

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Probably the "laid back level" might depend on how succesfull you are. Are you achieving your pu -c related goals? If so, you are doing fine, if not, change the strategy by reducing your "laidbackness"
 

Evangenlion

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i'm very laid back, however when u want pu-c , some work has to be down.

quote "I tend to have the whatever goes, just chill, no expectations attitude on dates. Does this get interpreted as passiveness?"

in some extent, very passive. to get something u have to act upon the situation. apply some of the methods. i think you fear looking needy.
i was so laided back that girls found me intimmedating (sp?). so i had apply some effort.

quote "Also, how the heck do you Kino a girl sitting across the table on a coffee shop date? Seems sorta hard to do and an ackward place to do it".

it may seem so, but it isn't really. what i would do, is grab a chair and dump it right next to her (risky? no confident). take a sit and lay back like i was a chair in my home. make sure you sit close enough that your knees touch (kino) and just talk like your friends, make her laugh, touch her shoulders and get her attracted to you.

someone here didn't read the bible did they? or haven't done enough research.
 

Dr Box

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I really think the only way you could come across passive if you were going for laid back is if you were nervous. Also I am a big fan of sitting next to them at a coffee shop that way you dont have to reach across.
 
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alright alright...thanks for the good ideas. i like the sitting next to idea. no, i haven't finished reading the DJ Bible yet.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Q-Pid

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Doggy style isn't desperate! Some chicks dig it! They should be laid on their backs though - women on top can lead to butch chicks!

...oh wait.
 

DJ4Real

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Being nonchalant is good. Don't be "passive nonchalant" though. Although you want to be cool and laidback, you must stand your ground if you need to. Remember, most women like men who are strong, being nonchalant and passive is not strong. Nonchalant and passive=doormat.
 

Visceral

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"Don't give a fvck" refers to your reaction to the outcome, as in not getting pissed or desperate when she rejects you.

It can also refer to your attitude before the rejection, as in not obsessing over what she wants or how you think she wants to be treated and just going ahead and doing what you want, then either escalating or backing off based on her reaction.

You have to really want to get laid in order to be willing to jump through a woman's hoops. Most guys on here probably aren't interested in getting laid, though not necessarily in a gay way, since they don't do anything to bring about that outcome.
 
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