"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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too hot its not attractive anymore ?

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A lot of times i see some pics of really hot men, chisled jaw, ripped athletic physicque, good looks and genetically gifted in every way possible, and then you see two kinds of chicks the first kind find him hot and the second find him attractive but claim he is not their type and they wouldnt really date a guy like that .... for a while i thought its a load of bull, i mean come on a super ripped and good looking guy and yet chicks are saying "he's not my type " they're just trying to look cool .

then i started experiencing it myself, when i see pics of really hot women, movie stars or models ....etc and i find them attractive and pleasing on the eyes yet would never actually make an effort to get a woman like that cause while she has the aethistics i just dont find her sexually appealing( if she hits on me and i dont have to work for it cool but if i have to work then not my type ) for example :
adriana lima, jessica alba, angelina jolie

and not just online even in real life i find some girls objectively attractive but would never make an effort or even be open to dating them cause despite having a banging body and attractive features they just dont feel sexually appealing enough for me and lack that something ... i find femininty to be super sexy .

with that being said it seems that a lot of men and women dont want a model, they want a good looking person with attractive features that are not extreme (strong jaw, big chin, high cheekbones ... etc) they want a good looking, down to earth normal looking person at least thats how it looks like , beauty is in the eye of the beholder i guess .

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Jessica Alba? Lol, not my type at all. The women I go for look way different. Sure she’s good looking but just not my type.

As you get older you’ll realize that personality makes a huge difference. A cute girl can turn into a hot girl if she’s highly sexually attracted to you, has a sense of humor, and is friendly.
 

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As you get older you’ll realize that personality makes a huge difference.
Right, it’s the whole package. Looks alone might get some initial IOI’s, and a few bangs, or a relationship, but ultimately it’s the man you are combined with your looks…
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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To me, a strong jaw line is not attractive on a woman, but high cheek bones are. I also don't care too much for wide shoulders. My gauge of attractiveness is basically how unlikely is this woman a tranny. :eek::eek:
 

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The reason why chicks say that is because they don’t want to the competition of that guy. He can likely get any girl he wants, and if he put the right moves on those same girls who say that he’s not their type, then he’ll still be able to hang them. Then they’d get super clingy and he’d just want to leave them lol.
 

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Oh yeah and another thing, models aren’t hot either. They’re too skinny-looking for most men. That’s why they don’t have very much sex appeal. It’s not just you, it’s pretty much universal amongst men. Girls think that models are prettier than themselves most of the time. But that doesn’t mean that GUYS do. There was an experiment on this where a group of guys and girls were surveyed for which physical feature they thought was most attractive on the opposite sex and they photoshopped it all together. It looks weird tbh, but the ones that the girls chose was much more model-esque than the ones guys chose.

It’s because while they are ‘pretty’ in the general sense, they don’t have any sexual features.
 

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Adriana Lima is the only one, that I would consider attractive in the face, with nothing special about Alba and Jolie being downright fugly. They all lack the curves that I desire and require, no hips, no a$$. I do go through phases, where I prefer petite women and I would smash all three, but none are what I would consider the prototype or a model of what represents female attractiveness, in my eyes anyways.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Adriana Lima is the only one, that I would consider attractive in the face, with nothing special about Alba and Jolie being downright fugly. They all lack the curves that I desire and require, no hips, no a$$. I do go through phases, where I prefer petite women and I would smash all three, but none are what I would consider the prototype or a model of what represents female attractiveness, in my eyes anyways.
yeah this is why I can never get my head around all that hb7 hb8 hb9 yada yada

We all have different tastes and subjective judgements
 

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yeah this is why I can never get my head around all that hb7 hb8 hb9 yada yada

We all have different tastes and subjective judgements
Was thinking the exact same thing, when I read dashriprocks or whatevers two year thread.
 

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and not just online even in real life i find some girls objectively attractive but would never make an effort or even be open to dating them cause despite having a banging body and attractive features they just dont feel sexually appealing enough for me and lack that something ... i find femininty to be super sexy .
I agree with you. Sometimes an objectively attractive girl might seem almost too "generic" for me to find them desirable. Generic is about the best word I can think of to describe it, like you say it's like they lack something.

Angelina Jolie, I've never found her particularly attractive either, even though she clearly has the attributes. I think with her, she has a certain kind of quirky look to her that maybe might appeal to some people but not others. Maybe it has something to do with genetics - they say you might be attracted to someone if their genes have something that yours lack.

Just look at all the pics that guys will post here of girls they think is a 9 or 10. And other guys will come along and say "She is a 4 or 5 at best" or "That woman has a dog face" or whatever. There seems to be more individuality to attraction than you would expect, considering that we're supposed to all be attracted to basically the same type of things: Symmetry, health cues, a certain waist to hips ratio, etc.
 

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Women can't handle possible rejection and a very masculine looking man probably has loads of options. He is what they want, but what they know is the forbidden fruit cause he can switch them at the first signs of bullsh1t and arrogance, a very common trait to women naturally and especially nowadays. On the other hand, the less good looking guy with a decent job and a car can stand their temper and sh1t cause he probably has less options.
 

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Women can't handle possible rejection and a very masculine looking man probably has loads of options. He is what they want, but what they know is the forbidden fruit cause he can switch them at the first signs of bullsh1t and arrogance, a very common trait to women naturally and especially nowadays. On the other hand, the less good looking guy with a decent job and a car can stand their temper and sh1t cause he probably has less options.
That exists but I don't think that's the phenomenon the OP is talking about. You're saying the attraction is there but the hassle isn't worth it. The OP is saying the attraction actually isn't there, even if you think it should be. The point is nobody is universally attractive.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I find the 'hottie' outright unattractive these days.... because they are projecting an image and more than likely lacking any thing of substance. Some may call this judgmental… I prefer to this of it as having taste and discernment [and judgment.. strange that this has become a derogative term],
 

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Jessica Alba? Lol, not my type at all. The women I go for look way different. Sure she’s good looking but just not my type.

As you get older you’ll realize that personality makes a huge difference. A cute girl can turn into a hot girl if she’s highly sexually attracted to you, has a sense of humor, and is friendly.
Hmmm...Cute and hot?

Keeper for sure!:p
 
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