"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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too drunk to remember what happened exactly...

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I saw an all chick Iron Maiden cover band last night, and somehow ended up chatting up a group of chicks. The one I ended up going for is a few years older than me, but is pretty good looking, maybe a 7.5, 8 or so. We hit it off really good at first, she gave me some contact info somewhere along the line, and showed medium/high IL. We were asking personal questions, kino, and her friends weren't cokblocking, and she's actually single.

I don't remember what happened, but we ended up pissed at each other. Twice, actually. I remember the first time she got mad about something, and later I came up to her and smoothed it over (for some reason, this usually turns out to be a good thing with me.) We talked some more, the band wasn't very good so it made it easy.

I ended up pissing her off again later, (I think it was me, it could have been her, but I doubt it, knowing my attitude) and I don't remember what it was about, probably something really stupid. I left the bar and went hom. I threw away the napkin she left her contact info on on the way. But... I remembered her name and found her myspace page this morning (she still looks good, too). I think I gave her my info . I know I told her that my band was playing the same bar next sunday, and told her our name and website, (she's a musician too, which is super cool) so I think she can find me IF she wants to.

I don't know if I should send her a message or not, or blow it off altogether. Now that I'm sober I realize whatever we were pissed about is stupid, and I would still go for it. She is 38, so hopefully she is mature. I kinda liked her.

Should I send her a message?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Yep, send this - " PLease pick me up at 7 Thursday night and take me to an AA meeting ."
 

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I don't think that'd make a good date. I'd feel weird about trying to get her drunk if I did that!

Actually, I wasn't super-wasted. I was definitely drunk, though. I was just drinking beer, not doing shots or anything. I think I was at the point where I was being over-****y.
 

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woods said:
I don't think that'd make a good date. I'd feel weird about trying to get her drunk if I did that!

Actually, I wasn't super-wasted. I was definitely drunk, though. I was just drinking beer, not doing shots or anything. I think I was at the point where I was being over-****y.
The best part would be if she agreed, came and got you, then you told her "change of plans." And took her to a bar. ;)
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Actually, thats not bad. Do you think if I re-worded that it might work?
 

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O.K. I did it!

"so... I need a date for my AA meeting on Thursday. You free?"

Fvck it! Lets see what happens!
 

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Cuz I fvckin felt like it!


Anyway, I got a response:

"I didn't know you could bring a date... that's cool! :) It's been a while since I have been to one!"

Now what?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Tell her to pick you up at 7PM on whatever day you choose.

Then when she picks you up, say "change of plans" and wink at her.

Then take her to a bar, and grab a drink.
 

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Been to one!?

Man looks like she has the problem. She actaully been to a AA meeting.

No wonder her friends didn't **** block, she is a regular misshap.

The plan was to get in the car and change the plan. End up in a bar.

I think you should really take her their and leave her at AA.
 

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ZenGodMod said:
Been to one!?

Man looks like she has the problem. She actaully been to a AA meeting.

No wonder her friends didn't **** block, she is a regular misshap.

The plan was to get in the car and change the plan. End up in a bar.

I think you should really take her their and leave her at AA.

She was probably JOKING.

Gosh.

But haha.
 

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Let's take a look....38? check. Myspace page? check. Argumentative and combative? check. Drunk? check. Musician? check. AA? check.


Bro it's like you won the lotto here.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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iqqi said:
Tell her to pick you up at 7PM on whatever day you choose.

Then when she picks you up, say "change of plans" and wink at her.

Then take her to a bar, and grab a drink.
You guys know the plan as well as I do - if you are doing the AA program you can't drink at all - what are you thinking ? IF you take her to a bar it is soda only .

I am going come over there and pick you up myself and take you to a meeting just so you stay sober. Sheesh !
Ha ha !
 

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persistent exaction said:
Let's take a look....38? check. Myspace page? check. Argumentative and combative? check. Drunk? check. Musician? check. AA? check.


Bro it's like you won the lotto here.
LOL I laughed.
 

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persistent exaction said:
Let's take a look....38? check. Myspace page? check. Argumentative and combative? check. Drunk? check. Musician? check. AA? check.


Bro it's like you won the lotto here.
:crackup:

For some reason the phrase, "Reduce. Reuse. Recycle." comes to mind. I dunno why.
 

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ZenGodMod said:
Been to one!?

Man looks like she has the problem. She actaully been to a AA meeting.

No wonder her friends didn't **** block, she is a regular misshap.

The plan was to get in the car and change the plan. End up in a bar.

I think you should really take her their and leave her at AA.
You don't know what the word JOKE means. Nuff said, no more advice from you.

persistent exaction said:
Let's take a look....38? check. Myspace page? check. Argumentative and combative? check. Drunk? check. Musician? check. AA? check.


Bro it's like you won the lotto here.

38 and still hot?
Im TOTALLY fine with that. Myspace page? Everyone with comp. access does, nothing wrong with that. Argumentive and combative? Not at all, actually. Where did you pull that out of?????. Drunk. Saturday night at 1AM? totally acceptable, and she wasn't anyway. Musician? How is that even an issue? I like that anyway, so you're lame! AA.She was totally joking, and if you can't see that, you're pathetic.

You guys are being pretty judgemental about someone going out and having fun on a Saturday night. She wasn't drunk, and she wasn't slutty.
Im sure if I get to know her I can find many VALID reasons for hating her, but you guys are fvcking retarded. I'm getting better advice from the CHICK on the forum, and that's pretty sad.

jophil28. First of all, LEARN HOW TO TAKE A JOKE. You were probably serious with the first AA thread! I thought it was a joke. You are in need of help much more than I or her. What are you, some straightedge queer? Or a cop? Do you think you're high and mighty because you dont party once in a while? Fvck you! How old are you again? Shut your pathetic ass up. Like I'm SUCH a LOSER because I enjoy my weekend. Fvck you, and fvck a kangaroo up the ass.
You dont know Me, or the chick I'm talking about. I've never seen her before, so she's not a huge barfly, so DON"T JUDGE, you aussie faggot!
 

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So anyway...Im not sure if I should respond with 1: Asking her if I was a diick and apologizing, 2: pretending it never happened or 3: pass the buck on to her, and making her out to be the ****.

Right now, I'm leaning towards the first. It's worked for me before.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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