"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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GuanYu

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Sounds like you fvcked up because you weren't enough of a challenge. If you felt you weren't getting the kind of vibes you wanted from her early on, instead of asking her if she wanted to see you "mack other girls" you should have just went on ahead and did it.

Also, putting your hard d!ck against her without first kissing, hugging, etc first is a big nono IMO. You probably made her feel like a wh0re by allowing your tipsyness to shine through.

Also, you're correct in saying you messed up by apologizing and soon after telling her how pretty she is, blah blah. That's completely AFC behavior to the 5th power! On top of that you called her back again after she pretty much dissed you saying you hit on her too much and telling you "No" for a date by implying that she's tired.

Only way to salvage something like this is to just completely ignore her. If she likes you the least bit or is desperate enough she might hit you up, but don't be surprised if she doesn't. If you keep initiating contact with her from now on she'll just think you're a chump without any other prospects.

Also, did you pay for her drinks? If you did that's also a nono especially when she invites you out.
 
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Hooligan Harry

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walk away dude. All due respect, but I think you came across as a prat. Who grinds a hard on into a women on the dance floor? Maybe if you ****ed her before I could say fine. But on a first date? Then you ask her if she would prefer it if you "mac other girls?"

Holy ****. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. No wonder she wont return your calls. You acted like a frikken date rapist. She does not trust you and does not feel safe around you. Bottom line is that you really creeped this chick out.

This is what happens when people read too much seduction material.

"So, after a bit of kino I decided to rub my hard knob against her on the dance floor. You know, because at stage 3.7.6 B its time to show sexual interest"
 
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Delete post. Thanks for the advice.. Your right I read too much seduction material..
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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