"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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To the true DJ's here, help me out a little

snowdog

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Normally i don't start threads like this; i'm finding things out on my own by trying, failing, and trying again. This time it's a little different though.

My journal is here.

If you start from the start of the 3rd page you can see where I am at this moment in terms of progress.

There is a girl at my work. I posted about her in these posts (but really, you really should read from page 3 so you'll get a much better idea):
#62
#45
#65
#70


According to the material i read and the stuff i read on here, i'm in a pretty sweet position. But i know from experience that such a position doesn't last long. So, what should i do? I asked her out, and she didn't have time and a very good reason for it. Infact i had a mini-exchange with her in the hallways where she told me she'll get the key to her new house tomorrow (read my sh*t if you wanna know what i'm talking about). ANYWAY, i would like some tips from the more experienced DJ's here.

I'm walking into her every now and then, max 2 times a day, and sometimes i don't even see her. Really, please gimme some advice on how to handle this cause i like this one.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Gangster Of Love

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Your links are so confusing. I read this post of yours, yet it has no info as to what and who are you dealing with.

On the links, all it has are chicks you met, yet you don't mention which one you are talking about, or any follow up, etc.

If you want help, you have to make it easy for the guys here to want to help you. Don't have us to all the work, even if we want to do all the work, there just insn't even enough info to make any sense of this. I am speaking for myself, at least.

Help me help you!!!
 

NoMoreTapDancing

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I don't know how many times I have to type this on this forum. Stop GOING AFTER WOMEN AT WORK!!!! You'll just get yourself in trouble, lose your job, get your boss in trouble, get embroiled in a lawsuit if it all goes wrong. Girls go to work to earn money, not to meet people, so just let her earn her money and you do the same!!! Leave dating and hooking up to OUTSIDE the workplace, please!?!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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