So when I went to the movies with the girl I'm dating. While walking up to the registor, I asked her "did you bring money?" or somthing like that, I paid for mine, she paid for hers. I figured most people go dutch, but if she didnt bring money I'd happily pay. Later one of her friends told me that I should have paid for her. I dont mind paying full, but it'll get expensive after a while. How do u guys manage things?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
To pay or not to pay, that is the question.
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
If you are out on a date. My rule is to ALWAYS pay on the first date. ALWAYS.. even if she offers. If hse really insists, let her pay the tip. (that is if its a dinner date).
If you arent hookin gup by the 3rd or 4th date.. next her.
If she offers to pay, I usually let her pay by date 3. Then I will pay the next 2 -3 dates. Then let her pay. and so on.
This topic is covered a lot in the DJ Bible, check it out!
If you arent hookin gup by the 3rd or 4th date.. next her.
If she offers to pay, I usually let her pay by date 3. Then I will pay the next 2 -3 dates. Then let her pay. and so on.
This topic is covered a lot in the DJ Bible, check it out!
[look]aRhino
Don Juan
I manage things by not going to the movies.
Go rollerblading in the park, pay for ice creams.
Go miniputting, pay for both.
goto the park for a picnic, free.
bring her over to watch a movie at your place or vice versa, almost free.
As a student, i have to operate on a student's budget, which means most of the **** i do is low cost.
However, that said, I try to make a habit of always paying on the first date. After that, it evens out.
Rhino
Go rollerblading in the park, pay for ice creams.
Go miniputting, pay for both.
goto the park for a picnic, free.
bring her over to watch a movie at your place or vice versa, almost free.
As a student, i have to operate on a student's budget, which means most of the **** i do is low cost.
However, that said, I try to make a habit of always paying on the first date. After that, it evens out.
Rhino
I don't think there is a rule for this.. DO WHAT YOU WANT!.. if the girl doesn't like you because you payed then kick her to the curb and call up one of your other girls.
Some girlw feel bad if they let you pay, but that is usually only because they don't like you. They don't want to go home feeling bad that they made you pay.
Some girlw feel bad if they let you pay, but that is usually only because they don't like you. They don't want to go home feeling bad that they made you pay.
Dukester
Master Don Juan
always pay on the 1st date, but never go over $40 (that's my max). usually 1st date's (dinner, movie, or something close to that) do not exceed $30. At least where I live, movie for 2 is about $14, and dinner for 2 is around $20 depending on where you go.
after the 1st go dutch, or do switch paying (paying every other)
after the 1st go dutch, or do switch paying (paying every other)
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
So you're saying buy her off... Hmmm... I like the rollerblading idea moreso myself. Either way, whether we do something that costs money or not, I only go out with women who are willing to entertain me as much as I entertain them. What's the benifit of you doing all of the work anyway?Originally posted by vrad
If you are out on a date. My rule is to ALWAYS pay on the first date. ALWAYS.. even if she offers. If hse really insists, let her pay the tip. (that is if its a dinner date).
If you arent hookin gup by the 3rd or 4th date.. next her.
If she offers to pay, I usually let her pay by date 3. Then I will pay the next 2 -3 dates. Then let her pay. and so on.
This topic is covered a lot in the DJ Bible, check it out!