"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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To Flake or not to Flake.

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This is probably just an extension of the whole jerk and nice guy phenomenon, but have you ever met a guy or heard of one that was a total flake?

This guy couldn't hold a promise if his life depended on it, and yet he still got the girl you wanted, while you got to listen to her whine about how he flakes on her and drives her nuts.

Girls love when a guy ditches 'em to go out with his friends. So next time, schedule a date, then never call the girl. Or put up an away message that says you're out with your buddies.
What you're really telling her is that your time is too valuable to be spent with her.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Done it. some girls get pissed and flip. the best one i think was when I used to chill with my exgirlfriend friday afternoon adn then be like "aight well tonight is boys night out, so ccall up your girls or something, I gotta go."

she hated me for that one haha. i did that like..every weekend ha.
 

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the whole point is to create interest. plan a date, set up a time, then call and say you can't because of so and so. if she calls wondering where you are, don't answer.

like just this week. i returned from italy sunday night. monday, i called a girl i've been seeing and asked her if she would join me for dinner. of course she said yes, and i told her to give me a call when she got off work.

she sent a text message saying she would be off in about an hour and asked when i wanted her to come over. i didn't reply. she called. i didn't answer. she texted again. no reply. around 10:45pm i sent a message saying that i was still jetlagged from the trip and i was still very tired. i also said that i would make it up to her another day. she replied that she couldn't do it tuesday because she canceled somethings today so that she could be with me. obviously pissed

anyway, i ended up calling her to come over wednesday. when she got there, all of my friends were in the living room hanging out. i put her right to work. took her right to the kitchen and had her cook for me while i hung out in the living room with my friends. it wasn't until about 30 minutes later, i introduced her to my friends.

there is definately a thin line between a$$hole and d!ck, and i'm definately playing both. the point is, it's ok to be an a$$hole. it's never right to be a d!ck
 

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No, it's not. Why is it we get p*ssed off and "next" girls for flaking, but it's OK for us?

Double standard, guys. A real DJ doesn't rely on mind games to get laid.
 

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realsmoothie said:
No, it's not. Why is it we get p*ssed off and "next" girls for flaking, but it's OK for us?

Double standard, guys. A real DJ doesn't rely on mind games to get laid.
Well said man well said.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I absolutely HATE when a girl flakes. I don't get annoyed, I'm not irked, I actually hate it.

When you choose the actions you take towards your lady friends... do things that mildly annoy them in a cute way. Not things that outright piss them off.
 

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realsmoothie said:
No, it's not. Why is it we get p*ssed off and "next" girls for flaking, but it's OK for us?

Double standard, guys.
Flaking is good to do sometimes. N Keeps them off balance, keeps you in control. I don't think it should be planned, but if your buddy shows up on "date night" with tickets to a double-A baseball game, and a case of beer in the other... Let's just say if she sits in Applebee's waiting for you to call until the 7th inning stretch, it's not the end of the world.

Women like having something to complain about. Crying into a half eaten Riblet platter will be great whining fodder when she calls her girlfriends.
 

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realsmoothie said:
No, it's not. Why is it we get p*ssed off and "next" girls for flaking, but it's OK for us?

Double standard, guys.
Flaking is good to do sometimes. N Keeps them off balance, keeps you in control. I don't think it should be planned, but if your buddy shows up on "date night" with tickets to a double-A baseball game, and a case of beer in the other... Let's just say if she sits in Applebee's waiting for you to call until the 7th inning stretch, it's not the end of the world.

Women like having something to complain about. Crying into a half eaten Riblet platter will be great whining fodder when she calls her girlfriends.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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piss poor advice. Do not listen to this advice. I think it is alright to show up a couple minutes late, but NEVER flake out. I call the girl that I am seeing when I am not going to be showing up until late.
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BS... everything on this site deal with mind games.
this advice is by far one of the worst pieces of advice that I have seen. I'll prove it to everyone that this is terrible advice.

Lets see here? Different things on this site that are central. confidence, passions, loving yourself, self-respect, self-esteem, smiling, being happy? They are all mind games?

I disagree with your statement because you should be doing this all for yourself. I have not found anything good on this website that is mind games. Playing hard to get is not even a mind game because if you do everything right, than your time will actually be valuable.

This entire thread is a piece of trash and is very un-DJish. Go read the DJ bible and do not post until you have read the bible, play the game and kdnash82.

comic_relief
 

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This is the most retarded tip I have probably ever read on this forum. The OP is a troll that I have had on ignore for awhile now. Do NOT listen to this crap.

Purposely flaking is the perfect way to get the reputation for being a loser. This troll is posting crap to screw with this site and has been for some time now...but he's doing it in a way that has allowed him to fly just below the troll radar.

Remember...a man is only as good as his word. Flaking does NOT make you more desirable or attractive. It makes you look irresponsible, undependable, unreliable and inconsiderate. Attractive women have plenty of other guys who won't flake on them and their first instinct would be to call one and meet up with them and screw that guy's brains out and rub your nose in it. Also keep in mind that women are REACTIVE...if you flake on them you can guarantee that they will return the favor. In fact, they are likely to accept another date just so they can leave you sitting and waiting and never show up.

Don't listen to this troll...
 

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Doing this is RUDE and DISRESPECTFUL.

Try this more than once on a woman with more than a half an ounce of self esteem (especially when you first start seeing her) and she won't be around for long.

Recently had a chick do this to me. I specifically told her that she was on thin ice for disrespecting my time a couple of weeks prior.

So what does she do? She asks ME to hang out one night, texts me the night of and said she decided to do something else instead.

I basically NEXTED her right on the spot. She got defensive at first but when she realized I was serious she started apologizing saying she changed her mind and wanted to hang with me instead. I didn't bother to answer her back.

If I never see her again....no big loss. I don't tolerate people disrespecting me that way. If I do end up hanging with her again, the relationship will take on an entirely different dynamic with me 110% in the driver's seat.
 

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Such a stupid idea.
You want to be a man the stabds behind is word?
 

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Wyldfire said:
This is the most retarded tip I have probably ever read on this forum. The OP is a troll that I have had on ignore for awhile now. Do NOT listen to this crap.

Purposely flaking is the perfect way to get the reputation for being a loser. This troll is posting crap to screw with this site and has been for some time now...but he's doing it in a way that has allowed him to fly just below the troll radar.

Remember...a man is only as good as his word. Flaking does NOT make you more desirable or attractive. It makes you look irresponsible, undependable, unreliable and inconsiderate. Attractive women have plenty of other guys who won't flake on them and their first instinct would be to call one and meet up with them and screw that guy's brains out and rub your nose in it. Also keep in mind that women are REACTIVE...if you flake on them you can guarantee that they will return the favor. In fact, they are likely to accept another date just so they can leave you sitting and waiting and never show up.

Don't listen to this troll...
yea, i'm a troll.... listen to a woman's advice, you'll get very far.

I see this work on my ex-gf all the time.
All she does is complain about it and then go out on the first date she can get with the guy.
Not very bright now is she?

Just last post i read was whining about half of women having low self esteem and being messed up.
Then you wonder why these kind of games work and call me a troll, please.... this is the truth.
You don't like it, i don't give a sh1t.


This is not meant to be applied to a meaningful relationship, as you can tell by my user name.
 
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I may have tits...but I give good advice. If I didn't I would not have tips in the DJ Bible. I also have been PAID to write articles for pay seduction sites for men. Give sh*t advice if you wish...but if I think it's sh*t I'm going to call you on it.
 

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I'm not here to argue with anyone, so after this, I'm gonna drop the subject all together.

Now some said that this site wasn't about mind games. Let's start with some advice we see on here a lot. KINO. What exactly is this act suppose to do. Make a woman miss your touch or something to that effect?

How about the way you choose your wordings? Instead of saying, "Do you wanna hang out Saturday night?" You say, "Lets hang out Saturday night."

That's just a couple.

Sounds like mind games to me, but what the hell do I know. Now what I do know is that when I've flaked on girls, be it by something actually coming up, or I suddenly became tired and just didn't feel like it anymore, her interest level grew. Granted, I won't make it a habit, but I will flake at least once.

With all that said, you all do whatever you wanna do. I don't agree with something unless I've experienced it. The day, I actually come to this site and receive advice from some 19 y/o who thinks the title "Master Don Juan" makes him the almighty wizard of Oz when it comes to women, is the day my life has sunk to an all new low level and I should really re-evaluate living.

As far as the lady on the site goes, I've seen her offer some decent advice before, so I won't knock that, but like I said, I'm going off what I've experienced. Maybe she just doesn't like being flaked on, but who in their right mind would. My whole point was, when I've flaked on women, their interest level grew. Will this work for everyone, probably not, but how do you know unless you've tried it.
 

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Will this work for everyone, probably not, but how do you know unless you've tried it.
Words of a wise man. :up:

I forgot to mention that you can vary your degree of "*******ness" depending on how you blow her off. If you tell her ahead of time instead of not telling her at all, you might get a better reaction if she's got a big ego.

It's all about trying new things out and seeing what works for you.
 

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Just had the opportunity to test this out on a girl that i didn't care what happened with.

She invited me to [place name] and i said that i might give her a call later. I didn't call her all weekend, but she called like 3 times and sent me couple texts. Three days later i send her a text making fun of her.
Now I think she's getting obsessed with me:

- Won't be two days without a text or a call from her. Always asking to do something or telling me what shes doing.

- She's admitting she was wrong, total AFC move.

- Her profile has changed into some lovey dovey crap. :eek:


Field Tested and it works!
 

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while this advice is awful if you use it in a different context its good.

if a girl does something that disrespects you in anyway.. just ignore her for a few weeks then call her up and act like nothing is wrong. but telling her how it pissed you off is AFC behavior. for instance if a girl just goes yeah i'm going to bed while your over her place.. watching a game she's not into or whatever the situation. just up and say alright i'm out..

leave without any anger and then ignore her for a few weeks she'll dwell on what she did that could have possibly put you over that edge and attempt to make amends espeiclly if she starts missing your calls/personality/attention/YOU
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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