"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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To Call or Not to Call?

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Last Saturday I went to this club by myself and met this Black Chick named Kisha. She's 22 and I'm 20. I was in her vacinity and said hi. I asked her if she played pool and she said she didn't know how. I asked her if she wanted to learn and I taught her (Kino). I later danced with her and she said its to bad you are going to florida because you seem like somone I'd like to know better I tried kissing her but she moved away. I planted one on her later that night and it pretty much went smoothly.

She asked for my number and asked that I call her. I waited a couple of days and called her. Just small talk. I asked her if she wanted to see a movie and she agreed. She told me to call her Tuesday and I did just small talk I asked to see if she wanted to get together that night and she said she'll see me tomorrow. I called wednesday to pick her up and she didn't answer. This is the second time this sh*t happened to me in two weeks. I'm not sure if I called too much or what. If a girl tells you to call her should you not to play hard to get? Or do women just expect the guy to make the first call? Do women just not like given a fvck about or what? If you ask for the womens number are you no longer a challenge? Maybe if you don't call her when she asks she will like you more? Basically every experience I've had with women over the phone has led to disaster because the phone leaves them a way out. Any thougts?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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fvcked if i know....may have bf? who knows...maybe call leave a message, say hey enjoyed pool...call me back..heres my # and go out find another one or two...
 

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I CAN SEE YOUR BIGGGEST FAULT RIGHT NOW

YOUR OVERANALITIC!

WHO GIVES A CRAP!

if you give her your number then wait a few days for a call (make sure you get the number from her 2) if she seems really interested. I sometimes get a call back and sometimes i dont. If i dont, then i call, make very small chitchat and straight to the point setting a date. my rule is 2 strikes and yoru out. If she flakes the first time on the date, i give her a second chance, if she flakes then i next her. (she could be nervous shy so i giver her the benifit of the doubt the first time)
 
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You may say I'm over analytical but after this happens over and over and over it gets very fustrating and you can't help but try to figure out what went wrong.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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So are we going to that movie or what?"





never ask, especially on an answering machine, it makes you look pathetic. Your not asking her to go to a moive with you, you are telling her 2. They hardly say no. I would have just said to call me back and i would say something ****y.
 

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It happens over and over again for me 2!




even chicks that appear to be really interested and flirt with me big time in person (kino, jokes...)


Thats why im trying differnt ****y funny tactics. Personally i think i might switch to e-mail.
 

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well when im talking to her i'll bel ike. so wut are you up 2 on so and so..... if she says "i dunno" well you got plans now, your going with me to a movie.




simple as that.

if she says "im busy"

if she is really digging you then say, "of course you are, you are busy going to a movie with me"

or

"your gonna have to change your plans, so you can go to a movie with the hottest guy around...if she dosnt get it then she will say "who?" then say "duh, me" or something like that"


if you dont want to bust your balls that far then just say, "wel during this week when i have time, your coming out to see a movie with me"







TELL HER! you get less rejections. Dont ask for a number, demand it!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Originally posted by freedom_fighter777
Basically every experience I've had with women over the phone has led to disaster because the phone leaves them a way out. Any thougts?
Sure. My thoughts are that it's not the phone's fault; that it's yours. After all, if you were an interesting person, one whom they wanted to be around, well then what reason would they have to use the phone as a way out? Now, let's take away the phone. Say that there never was such an invention. You're still going to be the same person, but instead of a phone they'll find some other way to avoid you. What you need to work on is yourself.
 

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If you're telling girls you're moving away they probably think about it after you make plans and then decide it's better to not get attached.
 

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yeah she has to get you know you a little better to pull that **** off otherwise its just more physical attraction, if you have the emotional **** involved then it would prolly work better
 

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IF I WAS GOING TO DIE OF CANCER DO YOU THINK SHE WOULD WANNA GET ATTACHED?
 
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Never give a girl your number!!! The first time you communicate with her on the phone it should be be to set up a date in person within the nexr seven days!!!!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Originally posted by freedom_fighter777
You may say I'm over analytical but after this happens over and over and over it gets very fustrating and you can't help but try to figure out what went wrong.
i agree with you...dating is fvcked up...I blame all those stupid books like the rules and s*it like that...to bad..now its all about wait 3 days...dont wait 3 days..dont appear desperate..dont do this, do that....

Hey Ive got a really radical idea....Im a man your a women, lets hook up and see if it works out! simple! or at least it should be...
 

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Originally posted by Fenderules
well when im talking to her i'll bel ike. so wut are you up 2 on so and so..... if she says "i dunno" well you got plans now, your going with me to a movie.



TELL HER! you get less rejections. Dont ask for a number, demand it!
Sounds like really good advice mate..I like that! sounds way more together and ballsy than "are we gonna see a movie or not."
 

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yeah is sounds ballsy but its not when you say it. When i do this and my game is good, they never say no. Weather they flake out is another thing but of course girlz falke a lot and falke when you ask them 2.

I might say something lol "hey is obvious you think that im a cute guy and i think your hot so we are going to hook up"
 

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Originally posted by Wyldfire
If you're telling girls you're moving away they probably think about it after you make plans and then decide it's better to not get attached.
You know Wyldfire I'm in a similar boat as Im moving next year for a great job at a really prestigious place. On one hand girls are interested in visiting, but on the other hand it is raising some issues.
 

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im moving across the continent down to california next winter. any girl is not gonna work out when i leave. I guess i'll just have to find a girl in cali
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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