MrNotebook
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You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I have't looked into Swiggcat but I'm not sure I like the whole concept of 'prizing'. It just reafirms negative and untrue beliefs that girls are above you, it keeps them on their pedestal. If you have that belief you are always going to be trying to make up ground and anything you do to 'DHV' will be fake. If you have that belief your mind will filter out everything but evidence to support. Don't ask us what works, go out and try it for yourself, you will find out what works a lot quicker thenschttrj said:I hope u guys have known about Swinggcat. he talks about a theory called Prizability. ok my prob, i mix up prizability with approach, i think if u just make eye contact with a hot babe and tehn approach her, u r showing that u r not afraid of her but dont u think u r also showing that u think she is of ur level so if u dont have a superb apparent value, u r damn goin to be shot down, arent u?
Prizing is the opposite of that. Swinggcat is basically saying that you are the prize and not the woman.SinJester said:I have't looked into Swiggcat but I'm not sure I like the whole concept of 'prizing'. It just reafirms negative and untrue beliefs that girls are above you, it keeps them on their pedestal. If you have that belief you are always going to be trying to make up ground and anything you do to 'DHV' will be fake. If you have that belief your mind will filter out everything but evidence to support. Don't ask us what works, go out and try it for yourself, you will find out what works a lot quicker then
Yes...... It's a mental problem, something isn't actually stopping you except your brain. If you think you have anxiety and get all the symptoms, you have anxiety.SinJester said:Most guys who think they have anxiety disorders only think they have a problem.
thats wat im sayin. If I am the prize, say George Clooney, and i see a random HB 9 at a posh club or any other social situation, what would George Clooney. Ok, if he is wearing an Armani tux and just got down from a S-class Mercedes, then he can just make eye contact, give a sly cute smile and go and deliver an opener or just start talking as i believe is more credible. now, most of us i believe dont look like tom cruise and at least, im not a prince so that my dad doesnt even give me a car. now if we see from the girl's (>8) point of view, suppose we are dressed well and walking the walk and talking the talk and caught the attention fo the babe and she makes eye contact, now what? if u smile before her, she knows u have interest in her otherwise nobody just smiles at somebody from across the room on making eye contact and at this point, if u give her a nod, and approach her, do u feel the situation, u r moving into her reality and in a way, even if u walk like brad pitt, u r falling into the trap. AND AS FOR MY EXPERIENCE, I CAN BET MY LAST DOLLAR, THAT WHEN U APPROACH GIRLS, IT IS SOMEWHAT A NUMBER'S GAME, ONLY MADE A DIFFERENCE, IF YOU ARE AN ALPHAMALE, BUT IT IS MUCH MORE STRONGER IMPACT IF U LET HER WORK FOR YOU OR COME TO YOU AFTER GETTING HER ATTENTION OR JUST MAKING EYE CONTACT WITH YOU. my observation it is! here is where i feel the prizability concept ( that im the prize) comes in. if i am the PRIZE, why would i work for her? why not she? she can give me signals, then i can make a move? dont u think, only making initial eye contact with a HB > 8.5 and immediately, going for her or approaching is somewhat lowering your value? ok, heres a situation for the guys:The Deacon said:Prizing is the opposite of that. Swinggcat is basically saying that you are the prize and not the woman.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Guy #3 would win.schttrj said:in a shopping mall or cafe, a HB was sitting and talking with her friend. just some near the next adjacent table, a guy (#1) was sitting and he makes eye contact with ther HB, smiles and moves over to the girls and deliver an opener, ok a very natural opener, that should work, benefit of doubt. and there was another guy (#2) over teh counter standing leaning on it in an angle to the HB, he makes eye contact with the HB, smiles and then turns away and gets into doing something else. who do you think will have a better impact on her? note: both are equally hot and dressed and smelled equally good but no reference to the money factor. i believe the guy#1 would have a better chance of creating attraction but still it is kind of the number game here and the guy#2 would establish himself as the prize here. im confused at this point.
Good point . I liked this part the most . Totally true . They are the ones that stand in front of mirror for hours before going out .ChrizZ said:WE are the prize. That's why they dress up and put on layers of makeup.
attraction isn't nearly as important as comfort. That's where this game is won.schttrj said:so what u r sayin JUST DO IT! if it works out, good and if ti doesnt, better. Move on. theres not a specific way taht u should resort to, but only that girls like men who know what they want and go for waht they want. man, isnt it number game what u r suggesting at? since this is a discussion and i would really look forward to ur reply on this. i believe that the root of getting a girl is attraction and attraction is when u act like a prize and have a higher social value than hers.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
ChrizZ said:Yes, I do.
I have a penis.