"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Tips for Threesomes

Sofomore

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To those that have successfully had a threesome:

How should I go about starting a threesome? Did you flat out ask "are you down for a threesome?".
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Viagra4Soul

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Both times the girls asked me.

Both times they were lesbian friends/couples that 'needed a man tonight'. I was very happy to oblige, although there is serious drama attached with doing it this way - jealousy from one or other of the girls is almost guaranteed unless you are very careful to lavish attention on each equally. If one thinks you like the other more, the potential is there to have a serious blow-up.

Oh, and with lesbians, especially couples, you better know how to f#ck like your life depends on it. They don't suffer quick comes or excuses - you are a tool for their use, and the power is very much in their hands. You need to be able to service both, fully, on demand.

My experience.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Warrior74

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I had a girlfriend who had bi tendencies. We started off playing a drunken game of truth or dare with her roommate in college.

Later I had a female friend who admitted in a conversation about exploring sexuality that she always wanted to be with a girl, I told her my girlfriend liked girls (same girlfriend) boom threesome.

It's all about conversation and people being comfortable with each other.

I had this butch looking asian chic who wanted one of my girlfriends. She tried to approach my girl and got shut down, then she tried to approach me with the threesome option. I told her she wasn't hot enough and got pissed and cursed us out in some asian language. It was seriously funny.
 

McMotherLover

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Sofomore said:
...............please no troll posts
They're most likely not troll posts. Drugs and alcohol usually are involved. Easiest way to have a threesome is to have a bisexual girlfriend. She'll be down..... with the right amount of alcohol/drugs in her system lol.
 

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A few months ago I was out with my one of my steady friends-with-benefits and a few other girls at a bar. One of the other girls happened to be bisexual, an asian girl who was pretty decent looking - she took an interest in my plate and openly suggested a threesome.

I was all for it. My plate was not. Doh! What a squandered oppurtunity.
 

Sofomore

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Thanks for the replies. Looks like its a combination of luck, curiosity and confidence.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I tried a threesome with my two favorite bisexual women but it was unfullfilling. No intimacy, but double jealousy.

"I'm don't want to be an orgy guy. Then I'll need all these robes and lotions..."

Seinfeld.
 

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I started having MMF threesomes with a f*ckbuddy of mine last year (I'm female) - initially, it took a lot of convincing, but I'm glad I did, because I love them!!! He was experienced (involved in the swingers scene in Paris) and so were the "3rds" that he chose - we always use a different third. In my case, the men were not sexual with each other, just me, and none of us were in a relationship with each other, so there was no jealousy.

My advice would be to find people who already have experience doing it. Maybe take your girlfriend or plate or f*ckbuddy or whatever she is to a sex club to meet someone who is already into that kind of thing. Then the two of you would know what you're doing and could bring in an "inexperienced" third later in a private setting.

Three novices sitting around trying to figure out what to do to keep a good flow going - in my opinion - wouldn't make for a very pleasurable experience.
 
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