“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Tinder not free anymore?

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I have one visible match and it says I have +10 matches but i cant check them without paying. it wasnt like that before and I also had more matches.

I guess they only allow 10% of matches for free now? damn
 

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No it's apparently a new feature that allows you to see who right swiped you straight away. I guess it saves you time.

Tinder in general is really weird, some times I have 0 matches for a week and other times 8 matches a day.
 

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Tinder and Bumble are both scams. They both use old and fake profiles.

On Bumble they also do that same deal where they say "there are 3 people interested in you, pay us $69.00 right now and we will tell you who they are." But if you just keep swiping eventually they show you those 3 people and you don't have to pay schitt.

Bumble is partially owned by a female that filed a sexual harassment suit against Tinder. She took the money she won and used it to start Bumble. I've actually matched with her on the app. If you ever listen to any interviews with her she is pretty delusional and a borderline feminist.

Its obvious these dating apps aren't doing well financially. They are trying hard to push more "pay" services like never before. Frequently introducing new ways to try and scam you out of your money. I used to run out of people to swipe on, now I hardly ever do. When you set your search distance to 20miles out, Bumble will show you people that are 27miles out. It never used to be that way. Bumble used to limit your swipes, they don't do it anymore.

I wish there was a better way. Because they both suck. Match isn't any better. They have been sued many times for fake profiles.

I've had some decent girls from all of these sites, but its still a scam. My right swipe to girl agreeing to first date ratio is probably 1000:1.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Tinder and Bumble are both scams. They both use old and fake profiles.

On Bumble they also do that same deal where they say "there are 3 people interested in you, pay us $69.00 right now and we will tell you who they are." But if you just keep swiping eventually they show you those 3 people and you don't have to pay schitt.

Bumble is partially owned by a female that filed a sexual harassment suit against Tinder. She took the money she won and used it to start Bumble. I've actually matched with her on the app. If you ever listen to any interviews with her she is pretty delusional and a borderline feminist.

Its obvious these dating apps aren't doing well financially. They are trying hard to push more "pay" services like never before. Frequently introducing new ways to try and scam you out of your money. I used to run out of people to swipe on, now I hardly ever do. When you set your search distance to 20miles out, Bumble will show you people that are 27miles out. It never used to be that way. Bumble used to limit your swipes, they don't do it anymore.

I wish there was a better way. Because they both suck. Match isn't any better. They have been sued many times for fake profiles.

I've had some decent girls from all of these sites, but its still a scam. My right swipe to girl agreeing to first date ratio is probably 1000:1.

Yeah I agree but here its not much problem of fake profiles/no matches but rather of women behavior. they match with me for no ****in reason because they have no intention of meeting me lol
 

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OLD, in my opinion, tries to appeal people by luring them with false promises of easy access to sex. Especially men get delusional because of that intent.

Real Life is much, much better in terms of feedback - i.e you get rejected instantly if your approach doesn't go well. It's educational more than sending billions of messages ending up without replies.

In a way, OLD eases the anxiety embodied with approach but it doesn't desensitize you like RL approaches do.

I'm not advocating against OLD but it's supposed to be an aid and not the primary source for meeting women.
 

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Yeah sure paying extra to see a fake profile that swiped right on me...and then getting no reply lol
I could consider it if the payments arrives only if a 20+ messages convo happens and surely no more than 1 euro per match
 

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I couldn't agree more. I am thinking about all the 'extra' features of OLD apps that lures you into buy some sort of security. Fakes and bots are very common; they actually make the majority of profiles.

It's better off buying a gal a $20 drink, have some interaction going on and get rejected than getting the 'Unlimited package - All access to everything' and practically swoon or drool over retouched pics that most times do not correspond to reality.

It's a business and it all comes down to it.
 

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The only people that are saying tinder is bad are the one who doesnt have success on it.

With tinder gold, you have unlimited swipe, 1 boost a month and you know instantly who liked you. This is gold.. 19.99$ a month is not expensive and its worth the money. I wasnt successful on tinder until I tried different type of profil, bio, pic, working on my OLD game. I love it right now and it's a really nice addition to real life approach.

Con's : You have to be at least a 7 or have really really good picture with a genuine bio a tight old game. Forget about the 9's they're there for validation and reserved for a very small percentage, try them in real life. You'll probably get solid 7's if you're an 8 with a decent profil, game. Other than that you can **** a lot of fat chicks with pretty face but I'm not into that, I dont go under 7.

You can't swipe in rural region as it's useless, not enough girls but with tinder gold you can swipe anywhere in the world
 

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Since I'm not 6'0, I've never really tried online dating through Tinder or Bumble.

My friend is 6'1 and met his wife online dating. They dated for about a year. Got married. Have two kids. She is educated, tall, and decent looking. Can't be that bad if you got the height.
 

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Since I'm not 6'0, I've never really tried online dating through Tinder or Bumble.

My friend is 6'1 and met his wife online dating. They dated for about a year. Got married. Have two kids. She is educated, tall, and decent looking. Can't be that bad if you got the height.
Nah still sucks. In fact I think short & stocky guys have an advantage because they can look massive in pics.
 

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The only people that are saying tinder is bad are the one who doesnt have success on it.

With tinder gold, you have unlimited swipe, 1 boost a month and you know instantly who liked you. This is gold.. 19.99$ a month is not expensive and its worth the money. I wasnt successful on tinder until I tried different type of profil, bio, pic, working on my OLD game. I love it right now and it's a really nice addition to real life approach.

Con's : You have to be at least a 7 or have really really good picture with a genuine bio a tight old game. Forget about the 9's they're there for validation and reserved for a very small percentage, try them in real life. You'll probably get solid 7's if you're an 8 with a decent profil, game. Other than that you can **** a lot of fat chicks with pretty face but I'm not into that, I dont go under 7.

You can't swipe in rural region as it's useless, not enough girls but with tinder gold you can swipe anywhere in the world
I tried Tinder premium features last year and the only true advantage was the unlimited swiping. I downloaded an extension for Chrome and put Tinder on auto-like mode while I was at the computer doing some other stuff. I did get matches and moved from there but I've found everything a bit shallow - the same thing happened on OKC.

I might be a bit old-fashioned due to my age but I will re-state that OLD is more an ancillary tool than a primary source to know and meet women or - as you put it - a really nice addition to real life approach.

The matter seems to lying on another level. The majority of guys nowadays think that just having a profile and text-bombing each gal in a 25 miles radius will get them the hottest women. In a way, OLD doesn't differ much from real life as to you - as a MAN - you need to put the effort to attract the woman. Using the same opener won't work in RL nor on OLD. It lacks warmth, it doesn't spark any interest in the female reader for she is being constantly hit on everyday both online and offline.

My 2 cents stand there in as much as it's better to approach a woman in real life since you can experience her reactions, her smell, her gaze in a matter of seconds. Nothing compares to a NO in real life that comes after a good approach. That NO is better than the countless ready-made messages sent here and there.

This is - of course - only my opinion.
 

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My general life experience has been that when there's a girl I've wanted through my social circles, there's been something like a 80% chance that I'm getting her.

In cold approach, it's like a 3% chance.

And over the internet, it's probably a 0.1% chance.

I just noticed today that Tinder has set a limit of 10 right swipes each 24 hours. So, I'm going to lose interest in it very very quick.

Made 10 swipes, and got one match. The conversation went nowhere. So each day doing 10 swipes for one or two matches. Say 10 to 14 matches each week. Probably need a good hundred to get a fvcking date - which is like a good 2 months of entertaining the stupidity. Then the date is really just the approach properly, where we suss each other out in person. When meeting a girl any other way, you know you like each other, and the only concern is how best to put your tongue in her mouth. Success rate of closing goes right up.

I can understand the guys who hate women so much are just doing this online dating, where people have so little value to each other. Can't just online date, and expect to have/retain healthy views, imo.
You must be ugly as hell.
 

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I tried Tinder premium features last year and the only true advantage was the unlimited swiping. I downloaded an extension for Chrome and put Tinder on auto-like mode while I was at the computer doing some other stuff. I did get matches and moved from there but I've found everything a bit shallow - the same thing happened on OKC.

I might be a bit old-fashioned due to my age but I will re-state that OLD is more an ancillary tool than a primary source to know and meet women or - as you put it - a really nice addition to real life approach.

The matter seems to lying on another level. The majority of guys nowadays think that just having a profile and text-bombing each gal in a 25 miles radius will get them the hottest women. In a way, OLD doesn't differ much from real life as to you - as a MAN - you need to put the effort to attract the woman. Using the same opener won't work in RL nor on OLD. It lacks warmth, it doesn't spark any interest in the female reader for she is being constantly hit on everyday both online and offline.

My 2 cents stand there in as much as it's better to approach a woman in real life since you can experience her reactions, her smell, her gaze in a matter of seconds. Nothing compares to a NO in real life that comes after a good approach. That NO is better than the countless ready-made messages sent here and there.

This is - of course - only my opinion.
Why not doing both thought ? I'm doing both and when I'm not successful IRL and I need to get Laid, tinder is the deal. I can get laid AT LEAST once every two weeks if I'm not lucky on tinder and with a different girl every time. solid hb7 minimum, it's very nice imo. The new gold feature allow you to see every one that liked you so no more swiping, you save A LOT of time.
 

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I see your point and I don't disagree with you. Fact is I personally enjoy the approaches in real life way way more. It's either instant reward or instant rejection.
 

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Dating apps and websites are designed to make you pay for them for extra features. They play off your endorphin in your brains whenever you get a match. The algorithm is set to where you won't get any matches because your profile is hidden unless you pay them money.

Stick to the old fashion way and approach and meet women in person.
 

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Cold approaches today whist biking on the way to the swimming pool.

1] Liked the look of one girl. Stopped to ask the way. She was too young and shy, so quickly moved on

2] Open a lovely looking classy woman with 'Excuse me, where is the swimming pool?'. She opens up a map on her cell phone. we start chatting. Wants to meet again. Get her number. Say goodbye.

Pool was closed, so head to the local coffee shop.

3] Start talking to a girl directly on walking in, she was also ordering. Sat down and chatted away... but soon realized she was way too young [I really need to screen these ones out]. Said goodbye, and sat at another table.

4] On sitting down, received a glance from a lady who had just entered whilst I was distracted with the other girl. She was a better age and foxy looking. Looked back solidly, got the grin, then asked her if she knew the wifi code. Got chatting for 10 minutes, got her number, then left her to her lunch.

I don't do this everyday, just when i'm in the mood for it. Much more fun that wasting time with OLD. I don't do cold approaches as much as I used to, but when I do them I find I'm getting solid interactions and a number close around 50% of the time.
 

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Cold approaches today whist biking on the way to the swimming pool.

1] Liked the look of one girl. Stopped to ask the way. She was too young and shy, so quickly moved on

2] Open a lovely looking classy woman with 'Excuse me, where is the swimming pool?'. She opens up a map on her cell phone. we start chatting. Wants to meet again. Get her number. Say goodbye.

Pool was closed, so head to the local coffee shop.

3] Start talking to a girl directly on walking in, she was also ordering. Sat down and chatted away... but soon realized she was way too young [I really need to screen these ones out]. Said goodbye, and sat at another table.

4] On sitting down, received a glance from a lady who had just entered whilst I was distracted with the other girl. She was a better age and foxy looking. Looked back solidly, got the grin, then asked her if she knew the wifi code. Got chatting for 10 minutes, got her number, then left her to her lunch.

I don't do this everyday, just when i'm in the mood for it. Much more fun that wasting time with OLD. I don't do cold approaches as much as I used to, but when I do them I find I'm getting solid interactions and a number close around 50% of the time.

lmao i never had balls to cold approach
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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