"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Tinder Dating- Advice needed

Lozboss

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Hi guys,

Need some advice from the DJs on me foray into Tinder. This is about how to play the game rather than a specific case.

So situation is:

1+1/2 weeks on Tinder

Currently getting a decent number of matches but there is a lot of flakiness on meeting for the first date.

I would like to know:

A. How much contact should I do?- it seems that both going silent after setting a date and keeping up bi daily contact to build rapport still leads to flakes.

B. I'm operating a 2 strike rule. I believe this is fair?


Dates wise:

Been on 2

1st:
First went well I thought- ended up with her kissing me and then I got a soft let down two days later saying how she was too busy in her life at the moment- WTF

2nd Went well, she was touching me etc and sitting close together, near the end of the date I tried for the kiss and she pulled back with 'No, it's the first date'. I've binned her as I think this is BS - again but WTF?!

With people's diaries it's sometimes tough to get a date booked in for the same week- could this be a reason for the flakiness? Only speak to someone if you can meet in the next 3/4 days?

Any advice on my situation appreciated. Tinder and OLD is a bit different and this is my first foray into it.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Yo're doing the best you can for now. There is no better advice except "Improve your Profile". Which would simply be having better photos and infox if you don't already. Online dating is a hit-or-miss game. From the sound of your posts I'd say you are relying on online dating as your main source of poon.

Don't rely on online dating as a main source.
 

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Not my main source but was looking at tinder as I'm in London UK and would hopefully be a way of getting a few plates up and spinning while I concentrate on my traditional game.
 

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I don't push for the date right away. I will get the number and text as much as she wants to, which I realize goes against the consensus knowledge of wanting to not be too available.

I mostly joke around in texts. Don't be boring. Making fun of other men is a gold mine of material. I don't shy away from complimenting her, either. I try to keep it somewhat non-sexual, i.e "you look amazing in that one pic" and not wow! huge t!ts!!!

The more cleavage she shows in her pic, the more down to fvck she will be. But the faster she starts pumping you with questions about your job and income, the less dtf she will be.
 

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Well I've just deleted Tinder.

Steer clear Men. OLD is the domain of the woman, not the alphas and DJs.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Lozboss said:
Well I've just deleted Tinder.

Steer clear Men. OLD is the domain of the woman, not the alphas and DJs.
Here we go again. Guys who don't do well at one aspect of dating trying to convince everyone else it sucks, it's somehow less manly or whatever else they need to convince themself the problem isn't actually them. God forbid you need to improve some aspect of what you are doing to actually be successful at it.

Anyone who is good at OLD will tell you there is no easier way to get laid with little effort. But believe whatever you want I guess.
 

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BackInTheGame78 said:
Here we go again. Guys who don't do well at one aspect of dating trying to convince everyone else it sucks, it's somehow less manly or whatever else they need to convince themself the problem isn't actually them. God forbid you need to improve some aspect of what you are doing to actually be successful at it.

Anyone who is good at OLD will tell you there is no easier way to get laid with little effort. But believe whatever you want I guess.
And your view is from someone who does basically 100% OLD- So I understand your view too.

However, there are some things that are accepted, namely:

Low Quality women have their egos inflated by Betas and guys with no standards.
OLD is often a final resort for low quality women.

I'm not trying to convince anyone- I'm giving my opinion- take it or leave it. OLD works for you? Bully for you- crack on with it then.

Also- you immediately presume I'm not self aware to realize I need to self analyze and improve- where did you get this from my post?

Please make an effort to actually read people's posts before commenting on them. It's just respectful.
 

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Lozboss said:
Not my main source but was looking at tinder as I'm in London UK and would hopefully be a way of getting a few plates up and spinning while I concentrate on my traditional game.
I think your right to delete it.

If it's not an option (read: safety net) it puts you under a little bit more pressure to concentrate on your "traditional game". A good pressure, a sense of urgency if you will. You know in life whenever something happens to put you under pressure.....you get the job done because of that sense of urgency.

IMO when you have OLD to fall back on....that sense of urgency is gone. You know how you feel before a football match or a boxing match...
 
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