Tinder convo

[GrowingPains]

Matched with a girl who I'd say is like a 9. She's 28, I'm 22. I want more girls that are this attractive, so I need to improve my game in all areas. OLD, in person, alladat. That being said, I haven't gotten a girl like this, including this one. I'm not focused on salvaging this conversation (if it's a lost cause), but rather to learn from it.

So I'm posting these pictures of the conversation so that you guys can say what you think I did right/wrong and how to improve it. Seeking constructive criticism.

Some things I think about the conversation:

1. She enjoyed the humor, but her messages are always very short and not really offering anything to the conversation

2. Dodged the number close and setting up the date but still responded - which makes me feel like this conversation in particular is a lost cause because if she wanted to meet, she would've given me the number and you wouldn't be reading this rn. This is where I'm uncertain: Should I pursue this anymore? How would you do that without chasing? I already gave her the opportunity to hang out, she didn't bite so I'll probably just be another floater she's entertaining if I continue? I'm only in town for 2 more days, I don't want to put up with such resistance (but like I said, would like to learn from this) and want to develop a strong frame.

3. I'm aware that ice skating isn't the most exhilarating thing, but it's certainly more fun than grabbing drinks (I don't drink). I'm also curious what she thinks is more fun so that I can store those things as future date ideas if I like them. But if the conversation is salvageable, asking her what her suggestions are isn't strong frame?

4. Not enough rapport built before asking for the number? I read somewhere that you are a stranger to a girl not because she doesn't know you, but because you don't know her. Can't remember where.

Looking forward to your thoughts, thanks.

 

[AttackFormation]

Women who want you help you and make it easy for you. You won't have to obsess over a few messages with them.

Ask her out. "Yes" means yes, if I don't match with a hotter guy before. "Maybe" means no. "No" means no. Keep going until you get one of these responses, see if she meets up, and then go from there. Until then when you've actually met this person... the more you obsess, the more you waste your energy.

 

[sazc]

When OLD ppl arent interested in actually carrying a convo with you it means 1 of 2 things - either they are not into you or are sick of being an OLD pen pal. The only solution to both is to go in for the meet suggestion

she wasnt interesting in really conversing with you, that's apparent, so you did the right thing and initiated the meet. from her reply, she thought ice skating was a boring suggestion. did the convo continue? you should have followed up her reply with a different suggestion, "drinks then?"

 

[Bible_Belt]

Just fyi, "ice skating" is code lingo for doing meth.

 

[guru1000]

Implicitly she’s talking about sex. Don’t overtly voice it, just invite her to meet you locally at a specific place and time for a drink.

 

[GrowingPains]

Just fyi, "ice skating" is code lingo for doing meth.

Lmao noted.

 

[Rainman4707]

Sounds to me that when you asked her if she had been on any adventures lately, she replied no. You then told her you'd "fix that" to which ice skating is below what she wants for an adventure.

 

[Tilex]

How did you come up with ice skating?
Do you live in Canada?

The conversation was fine, but the problem is you didn't factor in age logic.
A 28 year woman has already experienced things you could never dream of.
They've probably seen and done it all already with different guys. Think of all the ridiculous porn categories you see online, and know that a 28 year old has already experienced most of them.
An 18 year old female would accept your adventurous idea of ice skating on the first date, but a 28 year old female would get turned off by it.
If I were you, I would suggest something risky & naughty at the same time.
It's gotta be wild, bold, and far-fetched.

 

[GrowingPains]

How did you come up with ice skating?

It's gotta be wild, bold, and far-fetched.

I just like skating and I go often so that's what I suggested. I live in the US.

I get what you're saying about the idea needing to be more risky & naughty. But like what?

 

[flowtheory]

She honestly seems boring and I wouldn’t waste my time. You suggested a good date for this time of year, and she comes back with a snotty attitude? Please. You’re not her father trying to make her happy.

Don’t waste your time with women like these. She’s already putting in very little effort and making you dance and clap like a little performing monkey.
Even if I’m pursuing just for sex, I still want to have a good time with someone before the clothes come off. This is where we develop value in our own eyes. Conversations like these. If you unmatch and walk from an entitled woman, your value goes up. The more gifs and dates you suggest and continue to get lame answers, your value goes down.

Add: the first meet doesn’t need to be an extravagant date engrossed in risk and naughty. If she’s not up for a simple drink? Oh man.. why try to be so original for a first meet. A person should WANT to meet and just want something simple. If you have to plan these crazy dates, she may not even like you or have interest. She could just want to keep doing the dates

 

[sazc]

Agree with @flowtheory and will add, first date should never be costly - because you just don't know about chemistry.

"Then let's meet for a drink at place x, day q, time z, and discuss the adventures things we want to do"

Now that kind of a conversation could turn from physical into sexual adventures

 

[ChristianPUA]

Smells to me like she's not really interested and just using you for entertainment.