"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Time to admit defeat and stop wishing?

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lorekeeper said:
My plan might not be right for you, but this is how I'm doing it:

I'm cutting women out of my life.

I've felt pretty productive this past 2 months, aside from the fact I'm remarkably failing with a bunch of women, I've signed for an apt, and moving out of my home, I've finally got a job, even though it's temporary I'm sure i can fins something as soon as this contract is up. I've gone under 220 lbs (15.7stone) for the first time in 12-13 years. and I've f-closed for the first time ever.

but with all that I've spent wayyyyyy to much time obsessing over certain women. I've deleted their numbers from my phone, and don't reply to their texts.

Instead of going out every night, I'm hitting the gym. I get up at 8:30, at work for 10ish, out at 6, at the gym by 7, out by 7:45-9 (depending on day and how packed it is) then head back home and either do small chores or work on my car.

I've got other projects to do, including gettting out of my 12k debt, getting better clothes (my pants keep sliding down, i've piunched 4 new holes in this belt) building some things, and playing more football.

it feels like it's taken up my time, and I don't think about them as much; but like i said, it might not be the best plan but I'm doing it.
Its a good plan. Keep working on you, the girls will come. Only thing i'd say is try to get into something a bit more social as well.

GL.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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JdelaSilviera said:
First I would like to say that I think that PUA/DJ lifestyle is too depressing, although you can learn much from them, if you go for many one night stands you will, sooner or later get depressed.
This is the dumbest thing i've read in a while on this site... DJ and PUA are not the same thing.

And then you go as far as to correlate depression to one night stands IN THE SAME SENTENCE. People get depressed for a multitude of reasons. Everyone feels depression as some point in their life. It's how you bounce back from it and be stronger from the situation and possible depression that you had to overcome.

What doesn't kill you will make you stronger.

Use whatever information you wish to use on this site. It's your choice. I do advise, however, reading more into BECOMING A MAN rather than reading little tips and tricks you can use to get quick pu$$y because in my opinion BECOMING A MAN is far more important.
 

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Women can somehow sense the desperation when you want a relationship this badly. They correctly sense that you have nothing to offer them and you're looking for them to somehow make you're life better. This is a problem because women generally depend on men to make their lives better, more exciting, challenging, fun... They want a man that has his sh!t together and is going places so they can be apart of that. They want to be led.

Don't be discouraged. You know what your weaknesses are, don't just moan about it, take action. You say you're 140lbs, if this is a problem for you go to the gym, get on a weight gain plan and work your butt off. Join a social club, Get hobbies, travel to new places, try new experiences, set goals and accomplish them... basically you need to get a life for yourself. One that you're proud of and happy with.

Take 6 -18 months and just focus on improving you and learning to love you. Write down some goals for that time frame that don't include a woman or getting a woman. You will be amazed at how much better you feel about yourself.

As for people thinking you're gay, fvck em. Here's a quote i heard from a UK motivational guy called Matthew Hussey, that resonated with me and i never forgot...

"Don't let the quality of your life be determined by the thoughts of strangers"

GL.
Maybe your onto something here, i always think this by the fact when i go out i always wwear smart shirts... maybe that radiates me being desperate or something, where my friends who get women wear casual stuff.

I can maybe rejoin the gym this week and concentrate on that for sure.

Also maybe i SHOULD cut women out of my life for awhile, like maybe do something where i don't go on facebook or text women or make going out the sole purpose to meet women and see where that takes me?.

I have to admit that when i joined the gym it gave me massive confidence and gave me a goal, aswell as a great feeling that i was doing something for myself.

Ok for the short term how should i act around women that might help me come off as less desperate .. is there a way to act or look as i usually don't give women any attention like that so i don't understand how i could ozz desperation.
 

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I finally "GET" what people have been telling me sooo long .. that women are'nt that important and that they should come second to having fun and actually liking MYSELF and being someone who is happy with life.

Now i will go out no longer to look for women but to go out and enjoy myself and have a few drinks and a laugh.

I'm now going to make women more or less a bonus in life .. as in they will NO LONGER have power of rule over my life and everything in it.

THANKS GUYS!
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Demonicale said:
I try to do everything right, and when it keeps failing i keep taking it out on myself .. i keep looking in the mirrior and ask myself why am i not allowed to be happy?.
Ugh, how melodramatic. Attitudes like this really piss me off. Guys that think this way don't deserve the hottest and best women.

It sounds to me like you need to work on yourself, be happy without needing a woman to complete you, and stop coming off as being so desperate.

Also, drop any negativity when out there talking to women. I'm only basing this from the quote above as well as from starting such a moany thread, but women never enjoy hearing guys complain. Its never mysterious, interesting, or deep - but always considered negative, depressing and boring.

(If that doesn't apply to you, consider it as general advice to any other readers of this thread :))
 

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Tesl said:
Ugh, how melodramatic. Attitudes like this really piss me off. Guys that think this way don't deserve the hottest and best women.

It sounds to me like you need to work on yourself, be happy without needing a woman to complete you, and stop coming off as being so desperate.

Also, drop any negativity when out there talking to women. I'm only basing this from the quote above as well as from starting such a moany thread, but women never enjoy hearing guys complain. Its never mysterious, interesting, or deep - but always considered negative, depressing and boring.

(If that doesn't apply to you, consider it as general advice to any other readers of this thread :))

And people like THIS piss me off, people who did'nt take the time to read my thread and just comment on it.

I NEVER said i wanted "the hottest and best women" ... i merely said i wanted a girl who i find attractive, and who is nice .... now how does that sound anything like what you said?!.

Also THIS FORUM is about helping people, sharing idea's etc ... if you don't want to read "moany" threads (is that even a word?) then please don't click on a thread named as such.

But yes your right about being desperate, and if you read my most recent reply i did say that i'm now not going to make women the centre of my exsistence.
 

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And people like THIS piss me off, people who did'nt take the time to read my thread and just comment on it.
I did read it

I NEVER said i wanted "the hottest and best women" ... i merely said i wanted a girl who i find attractive, and who is nice .... now how does that sound anything like what you said?!.
So you are telling me you don't want to find as good a girl as possible? Even if you don't, what I said still applies.

Also THIS FORUM is about helping people, sharing idea's etc ... if you don't want to read "moany" threads (is that even a word?) then please don't click on a thread named as such.
I'm happy reading these kind of threads, I'm just advising you to keep your complaints to the forum and not air them in front of girls. As I also said, that may not apply to you, but I thought it was worth writing anyway (for others to read if necessary).

But yes your right about being desperate, and if you read my most recent reply i did say that i'm now not going to make women the centre of my exsistence.
Great, then I gave correct advice and may have been helpful. No more need for *****y replies to one another :]
 

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Tesl said:
I did read it



So you are telling me you don't want to find as good a girl as possible? Even if you don't, what I said still applies.



I'm happy reading these kind of threads, I'm just advising you to keep your complaints to the forum and not air them in front of girls. As I also said, that may not apply to you, but I thought it was worth writing anyway (for others to read if necessary).



Great, then I gave correct advice and may have been helpful. No more need for *****y replies to one another :]
Maybe i was harsh, i apologize, you raise some good points.

Yeah i'd like a hot girl, but i'm not just after that, you see i would like a girl who is attractive (to me) and that we click and everything.

Last night i went out to have fun and chatted to the barmaid in a club without trying to pull her or anything, turns out i have her contact details now.

Tonight being saturday night i'll make more of an effort, but at the same time i won't be sad if nothing happens ... life is far more than women to me now :rockon:
 
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