"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Throughout your expirience, do chicks with bf's say yes?

Zaraza

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Im very curious about this. In your experience with women so far, when a chick has a boyfriend but flirts with you and then you ask her out, how many of them have said yes? Share your memories.

I am very curious to see how many girls said yes.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Just knowing what I'd do to a guy that got with my girlfriend is enough to stop me ever doing that
 

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Really, what would you do? Some girlfriends and wives do cheat.
 

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texas chainsaw massacre his ass. haha nah in all honesty id probs jsut get in a fight with him and both of us would get hurt and nothing would be achieved at all
 

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I know this girl who has a long-term boyfriend of 2 years. At first, i talked to her online, over the phone, text, all with plenty of good C&F content. She likes it, but when i told her to go out with me, she always had a reason which i don't give a **** about :)

So, finally i decided to give it 1 more shot, and she was saying like, "I can't make it, i got blah blah blah going on.", "Aww. Are you sad i'm always rejecting you?". Then i went like "Lol, nah i don't really care.", "Just asking".

And then she went like "Oh.." as if she was lost. Then, she agreed to go out with me. That happened recently, but afterwards i was asking if she was free on this day, and she said she was going out with her boyfriend. Lol. It didn't bother me so i just talked to her as usual.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The_Scotman said:
texas chainsaw massacre his ass. haha nah in all honesty id probs jsut get in a fight with him and both of us would get hurt and nothing would be achieved at all
The community regards this as hallmark AFC behaviour, an indicator of neediness and low value.
 

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If she likes you more than her boyfriend, she'll often break up with him, but only if she KNOWS she has a shot with you.
 

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this is great! i want more of you guys to input opinions and actual stories. Have your girls said no to other dudes? or have you gotten a chick to dump her bf for you?

would you see this as a real accomplishment? or just a "****" thing to do to someone?
 

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I think a response to a girlfriend moving on to another guy deserves an attitude that its not a problem. If you threaten with violence then that makes you look like you have no other options and you need to fight to keep this one girl. Most guys dont take a step back and REALLY take a look at whos at fault. Its the girls fault not the other guys. Why? because if your girlfriend was really in love with you or was truly into you, then she would not bother to talk to the other dude.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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The_Scotman said:
Just knowing what I'd do to a guy that got with my girlfriend is enough to stop me ever doing that
This type of thinking is stupid to me. We're men and men are supposed to be logical. If a random guy asks out your gf and he ends up w/some poonani whose fault is that? Maybe she never mentioned you. If she did, she's still the one that has a commitment to you, not him. The ONLY situation where you would be justified being mad at the guy is if it's someone who is supposed to have loyalty to you (friend, relative, etc.) or he blackmailed her into it (unlikely).
 

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my thoughts exactly, I believe that if a chick starts dating another guy while being in a relationship. She doesnt care for her bf or the relationship, she just uses it as a safe house when things go down. It could be that women settle for someone that provides some shelter (emotional, physical, etc...) but still search for others. So why not try to get her?
 

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The_Scotman said:
texas chainsaw massacre his ass. haha nah in all honesty id probs jsut get in a fight with him and both of us would get hurt and nothing would be achieved at all
except of course the possibility of being charged by him, gettin a criminal record, losing ur job and then having her leave u for him
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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and personally i dont believe in titles except man and wife...and even then there are countless wives who cheat
 

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I think this needs to be moved into the discussion forum. Can an admin move it from the tips to the discussion please?
 

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I think this needs to be moved into the discussion forum. Can an admin move it from the tips to the discussion please?
 

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R19 said:
Really, what would you do? Some girlfriends and wives do cheat.

Yeah, the sh!tty kind of girlfriend/wife. Because a REAL girl who has actual integrity wouldn't cheat on you, they'd dump your a$$ and go for another guy. But if that were the case then you're probably doing it all wrong to begin with.

Is this forum about becoming a man or stealing other guys table scraps? And we wonder why AFCs exist.


Also, how is this a tip?
 

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Jon55 said:
Yeah, the sh!tty kind of girlfriend/wife. Because a REAL girl who has actual integrity wouldn't cheat on you, they'd dump your a$$ and go for another guy. But if that were the case then you're probably doing it all wrong to begin with.

Is this forum about becoming a man or stealing other guys table scraps? And we wonder why AFCs exist.


Also, how is this a tip?
Its not a tip, I posted this in the wrong section by accident and have requested for an admin to move this post.

This has nothing to do with being an AFC. How is it that if a girl is dating a guy, all of the sudden she becomes worthless and it is AFC to raise her interest?

Thats complete bull****, so your saying when you are seeing a girl... she becomes YOUR table scraps and she is completely worthless to other guys? Just because a girl is seeing YOU doesnt mean she is 100% interested in you, same as us guys, just because i am with a girl doesnt mean im 100% interested in her. I think if the attraction is there, **** it, go ahead and pick those Table Scraps up. lol

In our process of becoming a man, we begin to attract more women. We dont attract them because we choose to, but we attract them because we fulfill ourselves and they see that. If some other guys girl is attracted to me, its a compliment.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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