"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Thoughts on so-called "C&F" versus dominance

Alphathree

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(Aside: please, only respond if you're actually getting laid, I don't need hypothetical opinions here, lol.)

My game is "natural" now, so I never use any real techniques and tactics.

The only time I really consciously think about it is when an HB9+ is trying to dominate my reality, "test" me if you will. They do this a lot...

I used to always throw up "C&F" lines in response, but I suggest to you now that although these are decent, it is much better to just tell her to shape up or ship out.

E.g.
HB9 "God, you're such a misogynist!"
Wuss: "ohh, why do you say that?"
C&F: "And you love it!"
Dominant: "You can leave."

I've slowly transitioned from Wuss to C&F to Dominant. YOu have to have the inner game to back it up.

Basically, don't tolerate that bull****. When a hot girl is _CLEARLY_ being a b!tch and testing you, call her on it god damn it!

Don't be afraid to just say "Look, if you can't be nice to me, then get out."

I was driving an HB9 to a party today and I just said "You can walk" and she did the whole giggly "you're right, I'll behave"
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I don't get it...... It shouldn't be c&f versus dominance it should be c&f and dominance, the 2 go together not against each other. If it is a simple test (what do you do for a living?) then c&f works great. If it is her being a silly little girl then yeah put your foot down and set the boundries. If you are always dominant and not at all funny then where is the fun side of it. Although I am a big fan of c&f it is not the be all and end all it is just part of your entire personality, you can be C&F and dominant and use some NLP and some mystery method. It is not about which is better it is about which is parts of what method you will take and use for your own
 

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HB9 "God, you're such a misogynist!"
Wuss: "ohh, why do you say that?"
C&F: "And you love it!"
Dominant: "You can leave."
no no that dominant line just shows ur stubborness, what u shud have said:

HB9 "God, you're such a misogynist!"
C&F and Dominant: "Whats that?" (with a cheeky grin on ur face like she's trying to impress you)
 
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Re: Re: Thoughts on so-called "C&F" versus dominance

Originally posted by shumon
no no that dominant line just shows ur stubborness, what u shud have said:

HB9 "God, you're such a misogynist!"
C&F and Dominant: "Whats that?" (with a cheeky grin on ur face like she's trying to impress you)
'mysoginist? thats a long word for a woman. nah, i know women are inferior but i love em.'

great opportunity for some playful banter about how funny women are, don't give away shyt about how you really feel about women let her wonder
 

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Re: Re: Re: Thoughts on so-called "C&F" versus dominance

Originally posted by &UWlNoMeByThTrlOPusy
'mysoginist? thats a long word for a woman. nah, i know women are inferior but i love em.'

great opportunity for some playful banter about how funny women are, don't give away shyt about how you really feel about women let her wonder
Yep true, say something to make her wonder, but thats only u wanna lead her on, but I'm not the kinda of guy who wants to lead a girl on, because I am very picky when it comes to girls. But thats just me :)
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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RaWBLooD

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I'm not sure how this thread is supposed to lead to a discussion.

BUt I'll say this, thers times to be an *******, and theres times to pretend like you are clueless, and all of them will be dominance.
 
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