Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Thought a lot last night.

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I'm wondering if this is the best place for guys in LTR's & guys whose goal it is to start a family. Maybe it's more for players & guys who are more interested in spinning plates most of their life.

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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Let me ask this , will your wife stop pulling the same cr@ap she did when she was single? will she stop having the same tests? think about it for a min......

Joe.
 

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Whats your point?
 

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Rainman4707 said:
Whats your point?
Discuss meeting, dating, and attracting women with others. Ask a question or give advice



So when you got married , you have a wife. your job keeping her attracted is done?
 

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The flirting never stops (or shouldn't). The frame game never stops. The **** tests still come. Marriage and family is still loaded with the same situations in which you'll prove to be more of a man or less of a man depending on how you deal with them. So with that in mind, I'd say this and the Mature Man sub forums are still a source of information for the assertive man, settled or otherwise.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Yeah I hear you Zorg.

My life is setup so that I'm ready to start a family. Fifty four hour a week job, mortgage. I've always wanted kids. I want my genes/seed passed on. I find myself tempted to get the girl I'm seeing pregnant. I'm 30 now & she is 31 in May. I've been seeing my girl nearly 5 months... I think the guys on this forum will berate me for even thinking about having kids with her. If I was younger I would wait & give it more time.

I'm just tempted that's all. I've heard about the family court system & I know I would be taking a MASSIVE risk, but like I say..i am tempted.

I'm thinking..well I've been seeing her nearly five month longest I've been seeing a girl since I was in fifteen I would like to get to know her more before having kids, but she's 31 in may. I think if I want a couple kids with her now is the time

I've been holding back from accepting her LTR proposal she offered me three months ago, but maybe it's time to commit to LTR or part ways...
 

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Ok well have kids then.....I don't see what the problem is.....maybe you are not as sure about yourself then you think you are. If you let what a few people on a message board tell you how to live your life. I want kids one day, but I don't want to get married
 

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This is just a place to ask for relationship advice or to just blow off steam, no matter if it's a girl you just met yesterday, or if you're married for 10 years. Woman are women, and their shıt tests, psychosis, emotional instabilities, and neurosis doesn't stop after you say "I do!". No one here is promoting non-marriage, just manliness and sanity for whatever you wanna do in this life. In return you can also choose to help someone with a different point of view or through hard earned experience. No need to spend an entire night thinking about this shıt.
 

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I wasn't thinking all night :) I used to do a lot of thinking, but now I'm more of an action man.

Yeah that's why I posted...I'd been thinking about (me & her) for about an hour last night & about 13 mins tonight....just thought I'd try & post my thoughts.

Hmm this site has helped me a lot over the last two years. I have had doubts about the site like a few others have, but I think the site is great & very helpful. It might sound strange, but I feel the site is a part of me. I have tried & will continue giving back as much as I can.

Thanks Last of the Alphas, but there are guys on here a lot wiser & more experienced than me :)

I think common sense would say...have patience.....& wait. Don't get her pregnant....give it time.
 

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Don't let guys on here call you a faggot for wanting a family. Spinning plates is ok if you're in your 20's but after that it's more about securing a good life with a wife and family.

As for this forum, yes it is more about getting laid but I think there are some good tips for you as well.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Throughout my experiences, I have rarely ever seen a marriage last when the couple are of the same age. And yes, patience is good. What I must say is this:

Do what women would do. Start seeing lots of them (use Anti-Dump's Machine) and pick the best option for YOU. There's nothing wrong or cruel about that despite what society will tell you. It is nature.
What's in YOUR best interest?
 

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ImTheDoubleGreatest! said:
Throughout my experiences, I have rarely ever seen a marriage last when the couple are of the same age. And yes, patience is good. What I must say is this:

Do what women would do. Start seeing lots of them (use Anti-Dump's Machine) and pick the best option for YOU. There's nothing wrong or cruel about that despite what society will tell you. It is nature.
What's in YOUR best interest?

I've been looking for a LTR for a couple of years. I've been dating/seeing women & yes with that mentality of looking for a "good one"

Well, I've been seeing my girl for nearly five months now...she has been wanting the LTR for three months now hahaha I think I will tell her I'm ready to enter LTR with her.

I've been "dating" her basically. well I have been fuc*ing her a lot too, but seeing her twice a week, fu*king her one night then next night go for meal or cinema. You get my drift.

I have been seeing her for four & a half months. Now am going to get more serious with her & stop seeing other girls. I think i'll let her stay over at mine longer. I'm thinking i might get serious with her as more time I spend with her the more i'll find out about her (qualify her) I think i'ts time to get serious with her now.
 
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