Those who really believe all women all go for the Top 10% have never seen the "Are We Dating the Same Guy Facebook groups"

[Slowhandluke]

. But to take those facts and somehow extrapolate that 10% of men have sex with 90% to women would be a gross exaggeration.

then explain why there are so many more male virgins then female virgins when their population is about equal? is this an immaculate conception of some sort?

 

[Slowhandluke]

. But to take those facts and somehow extrapolate that 10% of men have sex with 90% to women would be a gross exaggeration.

like I mentioned in another post, that is about the same ratio of male virgins to female virgins for the late teen to late 20s demographics according to many, many research.

If we cannot conclude this is likely the case, what can we conclude then assuming male and female populationis about equal?

 

[Bokanovsky]

then explain why there are so many more male virgins then female virgins when their population is about equal? is this an immaculate conception of some sort?

Google (which you previously endorsed as a source of accurate information), says that 10% of men and 7% of women ages 22-34 in the U.S. are virgins. That is not a massive difference and actually supports what I've been saying. The "chad effect" exists but is of marginal significance.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Google (which you previously endorsed as a source of accurate information), says that 10% of men and 7% of women ages 22-34 in the U.S. are virgins. That is not a massive difference and actually supports what I've been saying. The "chad effect" exists but is of marginal significance.

if your stats are to be believe, there's a lot of virgin women today. I guess getting a virginal wife would not be to hard today and men who demand it isn't asking for the moon.

and to think, I thought people were sleeping areound a lot today. I'm glad I'm wrong it guess hookup culture is also a myth... and those advocating giving up sex only after a 3rd date - why even bother? nobody is really having sex in the first place.

man, I didn't know we lived in such a puritianial society. I am so relieved hahahhaha

(yeah, I'll slowly walk away now.. and slowly close the door... have a good time..have a good time with "bob" even though i really cant see him; shuts the door

 

[Clockwerk50]

average men can have relationships with women. It's called the "friend zone". its quite popular among women. Average men can also get escorts...

I feel the ball is more on the women's side. Also, its the women who complained the loudest and the most about not finding anyone suitable. The men only "complain" when they are asked. But on the most part, men just do their own thing... a little sadder, but being men, they keep marching forward enjoying life as it is, not how they would like it to be..

Claiming that every average man is stuck in the friend zone is ridiculous, and frankly, irrational. OP provided evidence, but your confirmation bias blinds you to the fact that an average Joe can have sex, be in relationships, and more. Your point of view also even ignores concepts like “Alpha ****s, Beta Bucks,” where an average guy can still end up in a romantic relationship.

Either way, here are some pictures of couples from my friend list that I picked randomly. Again, out in the real world and outside of echo chambers, mid-level people hook up with mid-level people all the time. Life is not as toxic as you portray it to be.

 

[corrector]

If you spend any time in certain corners of the internet, you’ve heard the blackpill/incel gospel: “Women only date the top 5-10% of men. Everyone else is invisible. It’s over.”

Bro… have you actually opened one of the giant “Are We Dating the Same Guy” Facebook groups?

These groups (there are dozens across every major city) are where women post screenshots of the guys they’re talking to or dating so other women can share “tea.” And Glorious poop, the pattern is the exact opposite of the doomer narrative. It truly opened my eyes after one of my platonic girlfriends let me browse for 2 hours during a platonic dinner date I gladly paid for

Here’s what you actually see:

1. Subpar men absolutely get rotations/harems. Not Instagram-model harems, but still multiple women at once. You’ll see the same average-looking dude (dad bod, basic job, nothing special) posted by 3–5 different women in the same week. He’s telling each one “We’re exclusive” while juggling them like a part-time job. The women aren’t 9s and 10s(usually 3s-5.5s at best), but they’re real women who are sleeping with him and catching feelings. So yes even “mid” or below-average men can build a rotation when they put in minimal effort.
2. Most women don’t even qualify for the “Top 10% man.” Because of their own filters: age, race, height (half the women on apps set 6'0), weight, education, income, location, etc. The “Top 10%” guy isn’t swiping on 40-year-old single moms with three kids in a flyover state. He’s not chasing the 5'2" woman who’s 50 lbs overweight either. Supply and demand cuts both ways. Does this mean top tier guys don't bang subpar women? all the time but a subpar woman for a top tier guy is a 6/7 for most guys that would be their looksmatch
3. Some women genuinely love dusty men… because they’re dusty themselves. Birds of a feather. I recognized some girls I knew from High school or girls I dated in the past who let themselves go. If you knew the women personally, it makes sense why they are in the group they tend to be drama-queens, vapid, shallow just insufferable individuals that no high-quality man would want even for a bang. A lower-tier guy will put up with bad behavior, usually moreso in hopes of getting some MEOW
4. These groups completely shatter the “women only want Chad” narrative. The comment sections are flooded with single mothers, women over 35, disabled women, young girls just starting out, overweight women, etc. all sharing screenshots of the same low-to-mid value guys. If women truly only chased the top 10%, these groups would be empty. Instead they’re proof that the dating market is way more assortative (people pairing roughly with their own level) than the doomers want to admit.

I truly believe Incels and normal guys want a model or IG thot and are mad they can't get one the truth is if you want a girl who is hot and works out then yeah you can't be angry if she expects the same it's just common sense

Thoughts?

You are proving the 10% is still real on this. It is just those top 10% guys are not chad-like male models but are these guys instead I guess. That means 90% of guys are still not engaged with them. Therefore this still holds true. If someone is dating multiple women then they are in the top 10% since most guys date noone.

I don't say I want a model or IG thot. I know I'm not in that 10% either.

 

[Solomon]

You are proving the 10% is still real on this. It is just those top 10% guys are not chad-like male models but are these guys instead I guess. That means 90% of guys are still not engaged with them. Therefore this still holds true. If someone is dating multiple women then they are in the top 10% since most guys date noone.

I don't say I want a model or IG thot. I know I'm not in that 10% either.

These guys are not in the top 10%, though, whether it's looks, money, and status, maybe they are in the top 50%. If you have a car, a job, and your own place than you are already in the top 25%-50% by default, depending on where you live. I don't think most men realize how easy it is just to be in the top 25%-50% by just having the basics.

 

[BaronOfHair]

@Clockwerk50 "Claiming that every average man is stuck in the friend zone is ridiculous, and frankly, irrational"

If one chooses to be "average", he'll end up Chad's sloppy seconds, all the time. Same way we don't get far in our careers if we're the sort of employee who appears right at 9, runs out the door at 5, and spends the entirety of his off-hours binging cable news and lamenting the many ways in which the immigrants/The Global Elites/Gynocentism f-c-ed him over

 

[Slowhandluke]

You are proving the 10% is still real on this. It is just those top 10% guys are not chad-like male models but are these guys instead I guess. That means 90% of guys are still not engaged with them. Therefore this still holds true. If someone is dating multiple women then they are in the top 10% since most guys date noone.

I don't say I want a model or IG thot. I know I'm not in that 10% either.

Top 10% by definition... if a man is "ugly", "unattractive", etc.. etc... as long as he is getting a lot of women; he is within the exclusive group.

it's simple logic... and its like math. 2 + 2 =4. math doesn't care if its two apples or two oranges. At the end of the day, the sum of any liked 2 items plus another 2 liked items will be 4; 4 oranges or 4 apples.

 

[Slowhandluke]

@Clockwerk50 "Claiming that every average man is stuck in the friend zone is ridiculous, and frankly, irrational"

If one chooses to be "average", he'll end up Chad's sloppy seconds, all the time. Same way we don't get far in our careers if we're the sort of employee who appears right at 9, runs out the door at 5, and spends the entirety of his off-hours binging cable news and lamenting the many ways in which the immigrants/The Global Elites/Gynocentism f-c-ed him over

from what i hear, there's a lot of chads that dont even work but can charm the panties out of any women...

 

[CornbreadFed]

Some women genuinely love dusty men… because they’re dusty themselves.

It took me a while to grasp this. A crazy dysfunctional woman can just put on makeup/look attractive and society will not think she’s crazy.

 

[SmoothHendrixPS2]

There are alphas in different tiers. The janitor at the local high school in a boondocks community can be banging 4 trailer park chicks at once. The drug dealer in Baltimore could have 4 baby mommas. Lot of ya'll incels think its either Ryan gosling or total loser, there's such a wide spectrum...

 

[Clockwerk50]

There are alphas in different tiers. The janitor at the local high school in a boondocks community can be banging 4 trailer park chicks at once. The drug dealer in Baltimore could have 4 baby mommas. Lot of ya'll incels think its either Ryan gosling or total loser, there's such a wide spectrum...

In other words, the “Big Fish–Little Pond Effect.” It was observed in the education system: the more elite an educational institution is, the worse students feel about their own academic abilities. Students who would be at the top of their class at an average school can easily fall to the bottom at a really elite one.

I’m sure the same applies to the dating system as well.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

then explain why there are so many more male virgins then female virgins when their population is about equal? is this an immaculate conception of some sort?

Because social skills are still required for 90% of men and not having them means you are unlikely to be successful when approaching a woman or simply won't approach.

Women without them still will get approached so they can decide whether they want to accept or reject the date proposition.

This should be common sense.