"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I think Im going to hell.

"That is all we can expect of man - this side the grave: his good, is knowing he is bad."
 
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Tony...I know that this is really tough, ive been put through similar situations before. But you have to believe that what doesnt kill you will make you stronger. It is in loss and sadness that you will discover a new part of yourself. Like it is said...

"It is darkest, right before sunrise."

and

"It is only after we lost everything, that we can achieve anything."


Tony this will help you, you may not see it now. But it will give you a better understanding of people, and what their true intentions are.

Just Relax, and take it all in...

Hope you bounce back bro,
Ohiofutballa :cool:
 

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Originally posted by TonyTheTigerOI

Jay - A 5.0 is average. There is one 10.0 on earth. And one 0.0. A 9.7 can make a living modeling. A 9.8 makes a good living modeling in recognizable adds (claiborne, ect). A 9.9 is a supermodel. I date 8.9-9.2s. I have dated a few in the 9.4-6 range. An 8.0 is just nowhere near as attractive as my usual date. An 8.2 is a little cleaner looking, but still nothing to take a second look at. An 8.7 is what most guys would consider "hot" and it is a very clean, attractive presentation. When you meet as many girls as I do youll find ways to illustrate how they look as effectively as possible. This is the system I have found.

ok, it's just the my system is quite different, so i misunderstood what u mean... ur system remembers me of hotornot's one, since ur valuations are pretty high! i mean... i completely agree with u about there being only ONE 10 and only ONE 0... i thought i was the only one who thought that;-) though, i believe that girls who can make a living modeling are the ones who are above 9, not 9.8:) and from 8 to 10 are the beautiful ones... the ones i approach... maybe ur really picky:-D
 

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Well Im a good looking guy and I carry myself in a way that attracts attention. Its easier for me to attract very attractive girls than it is for most.

Honestly no one has a word regarding what happened on friday? Its weak of me... but I was hoping for SOMETHING from you guys.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Chelsea called me last sat. She grovelled for 30 min. Then her mom asked who she was on the phone with, she said me, and her mom got on the other line and started askin me all sorts of 'mom' questions - where im goin to school, how did I like the campus, blablabla. She hangs up and chelsea and I start talking. It was really nice, I cant lie. Then she just blirts out stuff about us - why she did what she did. In essance, she said that because I was so perfect, I made her feel unconfident and bad about herself, and she got scared. She was confused so she ran away from me. We laugh about how stubborn we are, and shoot the **** some more. After two hours on the phone I say goodnight. I call her back today and invite her out... then:

AJGOI: I go out to dinner with chelsea. she looks good. We have an AMAZING time at dinner. We go to coffee. I get a weird vibe. For no reason I just tell her im going outside. Walk to the car, wati for her for 5 min, she doesnt come, so I leave
Pizzapawz: ahh!
Pizzapawz: why do you leave
Pizzapawz: leave her there?
AJGOI: well
AJGOI: because I never really had a chance to be angry at her
AJGOI: when she vanished
AJGOI: ... so I got angry then, it just caught up with us a few hours late?
AJGOI: so, anyways
AJGOI: I drive on my way home, but realize im lost, and end up pretty close to the starbucks like 15 min after I had originally wakled out
AJGOI: so I go back inside, shes still there, but talking to friends
AJGOI: I pick her up by the arm, and drag her outside
AJGOI: "Jesus dont kill her!" her friends say... I just say "Im not gonna kill her, just yell @ her some"
AJGOI: I drag her to the car, and I sit and talk to her for a min
AJGOI: shes askin whats wrong
AJGOI: and I just plainly ask her "do you even care if this works?"
AJGOI: "yeah I care!"
AJGOI: and I just exploded
AJGOI: "ThEN ****ING ACT LIKE IT"
AJGOI: and I just yell at her for like 20 minutes straight
AJGOI: at the top o fmy lungs (which is REALLY ****ing loud)
Pizzapawz: ya i can imagine
AJGOI: stuff like
AJGOI: "FOR CHRISTS SAKE YOURE SUCH A STUBBORN *****! AND YOURE TOO ****ING SHORT"
AJGOI: for literally, 20 min
AJGOI: she doesnt yell back
Pizzapawz: o man..
AJGOI: she just calmly talks to me about what im yelling about
AJGOI: I get even angrier and start driving her home
Pizzapawz: vicsous cycle
AJGOI: and Im yelling
AJGOI: and finally
AJGOI: at a red light
AJGOI: she just starts yelling
AJGOI: were screaming at eachother
AJGOI: and I stop
AJGOI: and I actually hear what shes yelling about
AJGOI: "WHY DO YOU HAVE TO MOVE AWAY!?!?!"
AJGOI: "wait. what?"
Pizzapawz: lol?
Pizzapawz: move?
AJGOI: "I dont want to just fall for you and be with you for four months so I can wave goodbye at the airport let you fly away to boston"
AJGOI: (im going to school in boston)
Pizzapawz: o word
AJGOI: so I just stop the car
AJGOI: put it in park
AJGOI: in the middle of the road, mind you
AJGOI: "is that what this is about?"
AJGOI: "honey I dont want to get hurt like that! Maybe I deserve it, but I just cant do that to myself"
AJGOI: so i finish driving her home, and were both just kinda raising our voices, but not at each other
AJGOI: smiling and yellin ****
Pizzapawz: ok...lol
AJGOI: I get to her house
AJGOI: and shes like "I just dont know what to do... I need to think about it-"
AJGOI: and I just kissed her
AJGOI: and she kissed back
AJGOI: and then we stopped for a minute. And i kissed her again, and she slipped tongue. but then pushed me away and ran into her house
AJGOI: so I backed out of her driveway, and was abou tto drive away, I called her
AJGOI: "Dont make me drive away, not yet"
AJGOI: she hangs up. So I just throw it in gear
AJGOI: then I see her door open, and she comes outside in a coat, so I pull back in her driveway
AJGOI: she gets in the car
AJGOI: "WHAT?"
AJGOI: "Dont fake an attitude - youve wanted kiss me. We both know it"
AJGOI: and she went to say something and I cut her off
AJGOI: "chelsea I gave you a lot in the months we were together. More than I given anyone, ever before. And did I ask for anything?"
AJGOI: after a min she responds "no"
AJGOI: "I want something"
AJGOI: "what?"
AJGOI: "when you get out of my car tonight I dont want you to think about forever, or four months from now. I want you to think about tomorrow. will you do that for me?"
AJGOI: "ill try"
AJGOI: "no, dont ****ing try. Promise youll do it"
AJGOI: ...
AJGOI: "I promise"
AJGOI: "thank you... now, if you dont get out of my car in 5 seconds im going to kiss you again"
AJGOI: "please dont my parents are watching!!!"
AJGOI: I count to 5onethousand in my head
AJGOI: she doesnt budge
AJGOI: so I lean in, she turns away, I kiss her neck and then her lips and say goodnight
AJGOI: I drive away... and... do you know that feeling - when somethings on the tip of your tongue but it just wont come out? I had that for a long time with her... and after we yelled... it was gone
Pizzapawz: hmm
Pizzapawz: yea
Pizzapawz: i dig
AJGOI: and after we REALLY kissed... Ive made my peace. Fianlly things are the way they should have been all along

I think shes fallen in love with me and is scared to death. Shes a REALLY good kisser and her body just REACTED to my touch. I made it clear to her, while yelling, that I dont want to see her exclusively and I dont want to tie her down. I just want to be with her. what do you guys think?
 

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Wow. This is some honestly deep and confusing stuff. She does have a point about not wanting to get too serious. How far away is Boston from you?
 

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Intense... boy the things love does to people. Looks like you got yourself quite the situation here Anthony... the kind of situation that there is no right or wrong answer to. I say you to really sit down and just have a long conversation to figure out what both of you want to do. Both of you know your options... either you make the best of the situation before each of you go your seperate ways, or amicably split now before both of you become more involved in each other than you already are.

It's a horribly situation that I am all too familiar with... so I wish you the best of luck Anthony. And remember, when all else fails... follow than feeling you have in the pit of your stomach... it's almost never wrong.

Damn... Anthony? Going away to college? I really am getting old. :rockon:

A.S.
 

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Originally posted by The Antichrist_Star
situation that I am all too familiar with...
You can say that again. The pool was pissed in but I think you just cleared it out. My brother and I share similar experiences and he's been in this situation. What do ya know, long distance relationships do work. Get on AIM.
 

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Well Im going to type out exactly what I want - If im talking out of my ass someone let me know:

-I want to see her again
-I want to kiss her again
-I want to sleep with her
-I want to hold her hand
-I want to hold her. Period.
-I want to have a healthy, fun relationship with her
-I want to party and meet other girls
-I want her to party and meet other guys
-I want to ask me to be exclusive
-I want SOMEONE to REALLY CARE that Im leaving in august...

While we were dating... she didnt show many subconcious signs of interest. But in the car, yelling at me - they were all there. She could help but smile. She was leaning over the center coucil, lookin into my eyes. She glanced at my lips. When I kissed her - her body WANTED that kiss. I could feel it. Im picking her up friday at 9:00... I donno where we'll go or what we'll do... and I dont really care.

Julian and Karim - drop me a line on AIM - ajgoi
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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A couple things you should really think about before you go any farther with this...

Is she right? Does what she's saying actually make sense and is it best for everyone?

You've recently talked about wanting "something more" from the DJing world, could this just be a sort of oneitis that formed in this mindset, or have you really fallen for this girl?

It just looks like a lot of this (yelling at her about how you or her feels and all that) seems a little AFC to me, like you didn't control yourself or maintain any sort of "cool".


Maybe you should just step back and try to evaluate the situation from someone else's point of view...it seems like she's ****ed around with your head before. Who's to say she isn't doing it again?


Or maybe it's all going fine and it really is all as you want it to be, and you two will end up together. In the end, we don't know what's on her mind and from the looks of it, she's been a little fickle throughout.
 

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DJoneday, I beg to differ.

You're trying to play by the book and the book doesn't cover level 3. The bible is stuck on beginner info and instructions that can't possibly apply to relationships.

Keeping your cool, not falling for a girl...etc are not always productive methods. It does wonders to the world when you finally open up and say how you want to say it as you feel it, how you feel it.
 

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Tony, it looks like you are in for one hell of a ride! Please keep us posted on what happens and how the relationship goes.

Something to ponder, if you are fighting before the relationship has really begun, do you really think it is going to work? Maybe she is just TO emotional? (That's what i'm beginning to believe). Don't take this as advice not to go for it, by all means do it. It's just something for you to think about. Learn from it and teach us all something new from it. ;)
 

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LikRetsam - I wasn't saying that was he was doing was wrong, i simply gave some suggestions of things he should make sure aren't going on. It just seems like "level 3" is a lot like being an AFC in a lot of ways...oneitis can happen to anyone.

Anyways i have faith that Tony will handle this the right way, it's just good to step back every once and look at it from all the angles.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Well, I've thought about this a lot, and I have come to the conclusion that you are in a mighty fine pickle my friend. You already knew this though, so here are what I see as the pros and cons of each decision you could make.

If you do decide to pursue a relationship with her you are undoubtly in for a rollercoaster ride of emotion and drama. Especially when it comes time to leave you will break her heart, considering she basically already loves you and that feeling will only grow stronger for both of you over time. Honestly getting this involved with a girl you will only have four months with has a good chance of hurting your game as well as putting you through emotional hell.

On the other hand if you never call or talk to her again, or even just tell her that its not worth it, you will most liekely have a great summer living up the single life and getting girls, although at first it would be very tough to let this girl go. And theres the saying, "It is better to have loved and lost, then to never have loved at all."

SO I guess while you were with her you would have some great times, but when it inevitably ends you will both be crushed. Is it worth it? Personally i would let her go because there are many beeautiful girls as sweet, kind and caring as this one, you jsut have to find them. Sorry if this doesnt help a lot, but Its tough.
 
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