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[Falcon]

If you think this is bad, you should've seen a couple years ago... It was enough to make me leave the site. I think it's cooled down now, but I don't really spend much time online anyway, nor do I really care about that kind of stuff anymore.

Either way, it is what it is. It might be helpful to know that people are the way they are because of past circumstances. They weren't born that way; rather, life has made them such, whether it's justified, fair, or not. Attractive women are hounded by guys 24/7, and really develop their attitude out of necessity. I remember when I dated some pretty hot girls and to see how other people treated them and the stories they told me, man that was such an eye opener. Never underestimate the desperateness of both men and women. Guys who eventually get burned by this may take it out on all women. It's a perpetuating circle.

It doesn't even have to apply in a romantic sense: life in general, it is always easier to fight hate with hate. It takes a very strong person to have the wisdom or empathy to do the opposite.

 

[zekko]

A person of intelligence will immediately realize that when someone speaks in general terms, it is not intended to apply 100% of the time.

Of course there are exceptions. Focusing on them is not helpful. The exception does not disprove the factual assertion that is meant to apply generally.

I don't think cola is saying that everyone on the site is woman bashing. But there is a significant number of posters who do it. I think I actually see more bashing on the Mature Man forum than here on the general board. Most likely they are from guys who have had some bitter experiences and can't get past them.

Also, there are too many posters who speak in absolutes. I tend to think of these guys as brainwashed by the pickup community. They will say things like "A woman will always, always do A when confronted with B". Or they will automatically quote some cliche that they learned in pickup 101 whenever they think it might apply, whether it actually applies or not. When guys speak in absolutes too much, it becomes dogmatic. I think it's a good idea to call this out at times, just to be sure we're dealing with truth, and not dogma.

 

[sstype]

Either way, it is what it is. It might be helpful to know that people are the way they are because of past circumstances. They weren't born that way; rather, life has made them such, whether it's justified, fair, or not. Attractive women are hounded by guys 24/7, and really develop their attitude out of necessity. I remember when I dated some pretty hot girls and to see how other people treated them and the stories they told me, man that was such an eye opener. Never underestimate the desperateness of both men and women. Guys who eventually get burned by this may take it out on all women. It's a perpetuating circle.

x2. I bash men just as harsh as I bash women. Men are so desperate and pathetic these days, many of them outright worship any woman who was lucky enough to be born with the right genes. I remember my ex would get harassed almost daily by guys out in public, and she's attractive but no super model. She was a generally nice person if you knew her but if you were a guy trying to holler at her on the street you would think she was the biggest b*tch. For her if she showed any sort of niceness or politeness to these men they wouldn't take her no's for an answer and think she was playing coy.

I think that we men need to start doing a lot of self-reflection. Women act the way they do because ultimately, they have very little respect for us men as a whole.

 

[rhcp83]

Men aren't innocent, either. The difference is, like I said in another post, I have no intention of meeting new men in person and don't want to see them with their clothes off or touch them so I could care less what they're doing with their time or how they act.

I can see where all of this stuff would come off as women bashing to the inexperienced or naive. But when you've done some dating (and I'm not even that experienced) you start to see the stuff being repeated on the forum coming true.

For example, the whole judge a woman by her actions, not her words. I have a female friend that claims she is looking to get married and have kids (is 34) but her actions say anything but...goes out to clubs every weekend, poses in douche type pics etc. then complains she can't meet any good men.

A girl I dated always loved to say "I'm just a chill, relaxed, go with the flow type girl" but when you'd have convos with her after a while, she'd find small, insignifcant bs to argue about.

I also know a lot of guys dating women who aren't in the least bit attractive, and putting up with sh1t ass personalities and being bossed around for who knows what reason (I'm sure sex is part of it, but maybe just weakness of character.)

I think where a lot of guys go wrong is almost becoming the male version of the woman...becoming a jerk to counter a woman's behavior, and to me that's no better. It's just fighting fire with fire.

Also a lot of guys on here are probably going for women out of their league (from the woman at hand's point of view anyway) then get mad when they don't get results.

You want a solid relationship? Find the smart low maintenance 5/6 with the sense of humor. She might not have the uber-feminine looks or bragging rights to your friends or whatever, but you'll have true quality.

Chances are if a woman is uber-social, has a lot of friends (of either or both sexes), is always "on the go" and loves to dress up and cares about fashion, that there's trouble to be had.