"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Mr.Fantastic

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In the past I have spent a lot of time reading this website and the truths that it tells, and I think it had contributed to my cynicism of the world. I can't be in a social setting without analysing all behaviour and I see people as the products of their insecurities. I don't quite know what I would be like if I never viewed this site - a lot more naive I guess, but perhaps happier. You see, in the past I was quite socially retarded and had little success with the ladies; now I am similar, slightly more success with girls (not a lot) but the main difference is that I am aware of the problem...and I face up to it. This is what causes a new kind of unhappiness. Now I am aware that most people go through their lives making excuses as to why they never achieved their potential, they reason things out by saying things like 'oh, im not interested in money and being flash, I'm happy with my average wage job because its honest' or something, people reason that 'oh I like fat ugly birds, besides a fittie will never go for me, wow I sure am glad fat mavis asked me out, now I can plan my future with her'

It sickens me that so many people live their lives in quiet desperation, in denial about whats really going on. It really is easier to live making excuses, but damm it, its not real life.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Soapz

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Hey there Mr. Fantastic.

When I first read your post, a little "aha!" went up inside my head. I agree to a certain extent that reading up on the stuff around here tends to make us err towards a more cynical point of view towards people.

I'm not quite sure what to say about that- reading up on all the stories about cheating and infidelity certainly doesn't make me feel more secure when/if I get married. In fact, a few of the posts go on the lines of "All woman cheat. Trust me, I've seen it happen."

The problem is that the poster's who say that only remember and focus on all the girls who cheat- and magically "forget" about the millions upon millions of girls who rejected him, etc. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that the stuff on this site is no more of an accurate portrayal of the real world than Disney films. Remember, it is PEOPLE making these posts- and people SUCK at painting an accurate picture of reality.

You mention people living a life that ain't real. Well, guess what, neither are we my friend. We're not living in reality, we're living in our heads. Don't get a big ego simply because we know a little more about how social sh*t works. I'm willing to bet some dude on a "Nutrition forum" is dissing us about our eating habits, or something WE are ignorant about. ("can you BELIEVE how much CHOLESTRAL these sucka's are eating?!?!?")

Anyways, my advice to you is this- forget about other people. So what if other people are insecure? You've got enough trouble handling yourself, no need to help others worry FOR them. Focus on yourself, and make yourself the man that you've wanted to be. THEN, you can start helping others see the light, etc.

If you don't think this site is helping you, then leave! (although this place is pretty darn entertaining, I must admit)

The only thing that will help you is Action! Take action, and improve yourself! G'luck mate!
 

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I went through that phase as well. The "I can't believe the dark reality of love" phase, that is. However, I got through that phase once I realized that all the melodramatic pieces of bull$hit that appear on this site every now and then are just the rantings of lazy pessimists who aren't seeing the kinds of results they had hoped for. They're not worth paying any attention to, because with their mentalities, they will never become true DJs.

Women are not the enemy. Women are not evil. Women are not out to make our lives miserable. They are just biologically programmed to respond to the "dance of seduction" in a way that many guys have not learned to handle. Don't think it's fair? I'd be willing to bet that fat, ugly chicks don't think it's fair that guys place so much emphasis on looks. But beyond drastic measures like plastic surgery and the like, the ugly chicks can't do much to change their circumstances. Us guys have it SO much easier, because so much of our success with women is based on our character, and it's far easier to make big changes to one's character than it is to make big changes to one's appearance.

Anyway, don't give up on this site just yet. Remember to always keep a positive outlook on everything, because that's part of what being a DJ is all about! Work on improving your inner game first, and THEN focus on all these nitpicky little tricks and tactics like neg-hits and fractionizing compliments and all that garbage. Believe me, they're nice from time to time, but they will NEVER bring you as much success as a strong inner game will.
 

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I can't be in a social setting without analysing all behaviour and I see people as the products of their insecurities.
This really stuck out to me, I was thinking about this the other day. Just thinking about how everytime i'm in a conversation i'm thinking "am I doing this right?" But then I think, damn, you know those guys in the movie, who just know everything about everyone, who just has the advantage over everybody? I am that guy. Think about it, I can seduce any girl, and become the alpha male in every group, your doubting this?

Stay up man.

-LC
 

Ace of Flames

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You say that now you see your own problems and insecurities, and they make you unhappy. Well, good. They should. You were probably a sad little person like most people here start off as. But that's ok. Its actually great! Why? Because you get to use your newfound awareness of your problems and such, and fix them! Use that unhappiness as motivation!! You know what's wrong, and you have the material here to make it right, now all you gotta do is DO IT!

Trust me, watching yourself as you improve and slowly become that guy you've always wanted to be will make you very happy.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Cod3r

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Hey there Mr. Fantastic.

When I first read your post, a little "aha!" went up inside my head. I agree to a certain extent that reading up on the stuff around here tends to make us err towards a more cynical point of view towards people.

I'm not quite sure what to say about that- reading up on all the stories about cheating and infidelity certainly doesn't make me feel more secure when/if I get married. In fact, a few of the posts go on the lines of "All woman cheat. Trust me, I've seen it happen."

The problem is that the poster's who say that only remember and focus on all the girls who cheat- and magically "forget" about the millions upon millions of girls who rejected him, etc. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that the stuff on this site is no more of an accurate portrayal of the real world than Disney films. Remember, it is PEOPLE making these posts- and people SUCK at painting an accurate picture of reality.

You mention people living a life that ain't real. Well, guess what, neither are we my friend. We're not living in reality, we're living in our heads. Don't get a big ego simply because we know a little more about how social sh*t works. I'm willing to bet some dude on a "Nutrition forum" is dissing us about our eating habits, or something WE are ignorant about. ("can you BELIEVE how much CHOLESTRAL these sucka's are eating?!?!?")

Anyways, my advice to you is this- forget about other people. So what if other people are insecure? You've got enough trouble handling yourself, no need to help others worry FOR them. Focus on yourself, and make yourself the man that you've wanted to be. THEN, you can start helping others see the light, etc.

If you don't think this site is helping you, then leave! (although this place is pretty darn entertaining, I must admit)

The only thing that will help you is Action! Take action, and improve yourself! G'luck mate!
Amen


-Cod3r
 
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