DJ_in_making
Master Don Juan
wow, it makes you literally sick? I'm sorry to hear that.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
This sh!t literally makes me sick...
- Thread starter squirrels
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
One on One
Master Don Juan
Take a break from the forums, guys...I took six months off. It gives you a new perspective and now that I'm back it's not so self-destructive like it used to.
Caldus
Senior Don Juan
That's news to me. I have to have friends before I would have a girlfriend? That sounds ridiculous to me. I look for friends too but sometimes it just takes a long time for some people (like me) to find other people that connect with them well if you know what I mean.Originally posted by Hellboy
Good for you Friv, I saw your thread. Me and Sous are like horny little animals
Caldus, don't 'try to open up to them more', just concentrate more on having a good time with them. If they have a good time with you, they will want to spend more time with you.
Cold approaches are fine if that's what you wanna do, but don't expect a girl to take you seriously for long if you don't have friends. Friends are essential if you want to hold onto a hot woman for any period of time. The cooler your friends are the better. And they must respect you, because she will pay close attention to this. If you find you're having trouble with making friends you actually want to hang out with, then maybe you should brush up on your social skills a little, or just relax more.
Maybe girls aren't "that" important. Maybe being a man who bags numerous ladies in a month isn't "that" important. Maybe getting a girl to sleep with you isn't "that" important. If you make bedding women a passion in your life, but you aren't really that good with them, I'm sure you'll feel very lousy about it.
The problem lies with wanting to fvck all these girls that you put your moves on. If you just want to get to know them, it ain't such a big deal because there are many girls that you can get to know very easily. It's not like they're in short supply. But when you start wanting to be good at getting to fvck them, it becomes like a mission. A mission in which you would hate to fail in.
Whether a girl decides to just be friends or whether they decide they want to fvck me, I am really not bothered. Either way is perfectly fine by me. Women make great friends too. Although they can be petty and annoying, friends are there to occupy my time. Just like hobbies. It may seem like I don't cherish them but I never disrespect them, otherwise I should get comfortable with being alone.
The problem lies with wanting to fvck all these girls that you put your moves on. If you just want to get to know them, it ain't such a big deal because there are many girls that you can get to know very easily. It's not like they're in short supply. But when you start wanting to be good at getting to fvck them, it becomes like a mission. A mission in which you would hate to fail in.
Whether a girl decides to just be friends or whether they decide they want to fvck me, I am really not bothered. Either way is perfectly fine by me. Women make great friends too. Although they can be petty and annoying, friends are there to occupy my time. Just like hobbies. It may seem like I don't cherish them but I never disrespect them, otherwise I should get comfortable with being alone.
Caldus
Senior Don Juan
So if you have no friends or girlfriend, then you gotta start somewhere. And that would mean cold approaches. That's my situation.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Mojo604
Senior Don Juan
nmOriginally posted by squirrels
This forum, the dating "game", "clubbin' ", online hook-up sites, having to regard every girl as potential "prey", sex, dating...the whole 9 yards.
I'm just tired of it. It's almost become a hassle to even think about women.
I'mma stop thinking about it (or try at least). Honestly, it wasnt' meant to be this much work, if it was, people wouldn't do it.
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