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Master Don Juan
Really? That's a weak comeback man.BlindFury said:
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
This place is turning into Sl*tHate & MGOTW cesspool...
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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This is insane. There's like 5 threads or so open about how MGTOW is bad. Seriously what is going on with this side of the Forum? This is very childish.
Can we agree to disagree? If you aren't MGTOW and don't believe in the Movement, you don't have to join it. If you want to get married and make kids, then do whatever you feel is best for you.
But don't shame other guys for making their own decisions for their OWN personal lives with women. That's childish and immature.
I don't see why we can't discuss a topic, all the way around, and then log off and make our own individual choices for what's best for OUR LIVES individually.
That's the mature and manly thing to do guys, all of these threads everyday about how something is a cult or how MGTOW men are Elliot Roger or how they are (insert whatever diss here), is just childish.
Can we agree to disagree? If you aren't MGTOW and don't believe in the Movement, you don't have to join it. If you want to get married and make kids, then do whatever you feel is best for you.
But don't shame other guys for making their own decisions for their OWN personal lives with women. That's childish and immature.
I don't see why we can't discuss a topic, all the way around, and then log off and make our own individual choices for what's best for OUR LIVES individually.
That's the mature and manly thing to do guys, all of these threads everyday about how something is a cult or how MGTOW men are Elliot Roger or how they are (insert whatever diss here), is just childish.
I couldnt give 2 sh!ts about guys who dont get laid, gave up and "went their own way". It means less competition for me when it comes to women, my career, and other things. Those guys can do whatever the fvk they wanna do.
*shrug*
*shrug*
Because women don't benefit from MGTOW and all white knight fags care about is what's good for women. However, I suspect these accounts might actually be women pretending to be men, trolling the site.Danger said:
Actual men don't care if other men are not marrying women and gay men care even less. Only women care about MGTOW because it effects them directly in a negative way. The nagging, the shaming, the idiotic emotional reasoning... who else but women? :yes:
9 Reasons Why MGTOW Haven’t Gone Anywhere
By Guest Contributor Mindy Lane
Despite my sinful exterior and dirty little mind, I really am a good old fashioned girl at heart, and I really care about the poor unwashed MGTOW masses.
Seriously though, I’d like to talk a little about those disenchanted MGTOW types. These guys say they are never ever and I mean not ever going to get married or have a woman in their life ever again. And that means NEVER! Here’s the deal with all that though. I don’t believe a word they say. Here are 9 reasons why MGTOW haven’t gone anywhere in the context of women and relationships.
1. No matter what they say on their forums, they eventually end up saying something that sheds light on the fact that they still pine away for women, but are just so incredibly confused, and have been terribly rejected in the past causing them to throw their hands up in the air and say, “I quit!”
2. They are constantly looking for reasons to trust us, and are still shocked when they find out that some women lie. Why would they care if we lie or not if they are really going their own way?
3. They become angry at the things we say. If they were really free from the grasps of the “feminine imperative”, they wouldn’t become so angered at what we say whether it’s in jest, or otherwise. They do care, and they do get very angry because deep down inside they still believe there is hope for them finding a woman. If they didn’t, they wouldn’t be so shocked when they come across something we say that they disagree with, be it parody or not. AND they have a hard time knowing when they’ve just been trolled by an ingenious joke. It’s o.k. guys, a lot of women are like that too.
4. They get nostalgic about their mothers. They pine away for the days when women were actually women, and understood that teaching their daughters to be ladies was important. If they had already gone their own way they wouldn’t even mention it – at least not in a positive light. These men want women to be like they were when their mothers were being motherly. Why else would they talk nostalgically about them unless they were holding out hope that they could one day find a woman like this too?
5. If it weren’t for the pecking order imposed on them by all the alpha apes of the world, they would probably be in the loving arms of a good woman right now. They’ve said almost as much, but of course always qualifying it with, “but women are *****s who will steal your money so I’ll just bang them.” or something similar. Unfortunately MGTOW types still follow the advice of PUA and Red Pill advocates despite these teachings causing them further pain and confusion instead of healing. To each his own, right?
6. They are still trying to figure out where they went wrong with us. They want to understand how it is that things have become such a clusterf*ck between men and women. If they had really left the building, why would they care where they went wrong?
7. They care about what we are really thinking, and are constantly trying to find hidden messages in our words. They pick apart our each and every word. A man who has GHOW wouldn’t count that among his list of concerns. It would be inconsequential to his happiness and he wouldn’t bring the topic up at all. But… they do!
8. They can’t stop talking about us. They have created multiple websites for the sole purpose of negging on women. If they truly have gone their own way, they wouldn’t be spending such an inordinate amount of time saying the same things over and over again about how much they hate women, or how all women are sluts, or how we are all money grubbing liars. We are still on all of their minds. We are still on the tips of all their tongues. They want us to stop doing all those things, and are surprised each and every time their subconscious image of us is shattered.
9. They want us to care about what they think and feel. Enough said.
There are no true MGTOW. They will always hold out hope that there is a woman out there for them who wont:
•Screw them over.
•Cheat on them.
•Hurt them.
•Take their money.
•Take their children.
•Ruin their reputation.
•Ruin their lives.
•**** on their self confidence.
•Emasculate them.
•Treat them dismissively.
Question is, do any of these men deserve a woman who won’t do any of those things to him?
Do any of us women deserve a man who is wise enough to hold himself out in hopes of finding a woman like that?
By Guest Contributor Mindy Lane
Despite my sinful exterior and dirty little mind, I really am a good old fashioned girl at heart, and I really care about the poor unwashed MGTOW masses.
Seriously though, I’d like to talk a little about those disenchanted MGTOW types. These guys say they are never ever and I mean not ever going to get married or have a woman in their life ever again. And that means NEVER! Here’s the deal with all that though. I don’t believe a word they say. Here are 9 reasons why MGTOW haven’t gone anywhere in the context of women and relationships.
1. No matter what they say on their forums, they eventually end up saying something that sheds light on the fact that they still pine away for women, but are just so incredibly confused, and have been terribly rejected in the past causing them to throw their hands up in the air and say, “I quit!”
2. They are constantly looking for reasons to trust us, and are still shocked when they find out that some women lie. Why would they care if we lie or not if they are really going their own way?
3. They become angry at the things we say. If they were really free from the grasps of the “feminine imperative”, they wouldn’t become so angered at what we say whether it’s in jest, or otherwise. They do care, and they do get very angry because deep down inside they still believe there is hope for them finding a woman. If they didn’t, they wouldn’t be so shocked when they come across something we say that they disagree with, be it parody or not. AND they have a hard time knowing when they’ve just been trolled by an ingenious joke. It’s o.k. guys, a lot of women are like that too.
4. They get nostalgic about their mothers. They pine away for the days when women were actually women, and understood that teaching their daughters to be ladies was important. If they had already gone their own way they wouldn’t even mention it – at least not in a positive light. These men want women to be like they were when their mothers were being motherly. Why else would they talk nostalgically about them unless they were holding out hope that they could one day find a woman like this too?
5. If it weren’t for the pecking order imposed on them by all the alpha apes of the world, they would probably be in the loving arms of a good woman right now. They’ve said almost as much, but of course always qualifying it with, “but women are *****s who will steal your money so I’ll just bang them.” or something similar. Unfortunately MGTOW types still follow the advice of PUA and Red Pill advocates despite these teachings causing them further pain and confusion instead of healing. To each his own, right?
6. They are still trying to figure out where they went wrong with us. They want to understand how it is that things have become such a clusterf*ck between men and women. If they had really left the building, why would they care where they went wrong?
7. They care about what we are really thinking, and are constantly trying to find hidden messages in our words. They pick apart our each and every word. A man who has GHOW wouldn’t count that among his list of concerns. It would be inconsequential to his happiness and he wouldn’t bring the topic up at all. But… they do!
8. They can’t stop talking about us. They have created multiple websites for the sole purpose of negging on women. If they truly have gone their own way, they wouldn’t be spending such an inordinate amount of time saying the same things over and over again about how much they hate women, or how all women are sluts, or how we are all money grubbing liars. We are still on all of their minds. We are still on the tips of all their tongues. They want us to stop doing all those things, and are surprised each and every time their subconscious image of us is shattered.
9. They want us to care about what they think and feel. Enough said.
There are no true MGTOW. They will always hold out hope that there is a woman out there for them who wont:
•Screw them over.
•Cheat on them.
•Hurt them.
•Take their money.
•Take their children.
•Ruin their reputation.
•Ruin their lives.
•**** on their self confidence.
•Emasculate them.
•Treat them dismissively.
Question is, do any of these men deserve a woman who won’t do any of those things to him?
Do any of us women deserve a man who is wise enough to hold himself out in hopes of finding a woman like that?
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.