"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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At least I think so.


So here's my situation:

I'm in law school right now. I was invited to attend a dinner hosted by a major firm in the city. Every year they invite a few law students to a free supper so they can see if they want to hire them.

I will be there with a few of my colleagues from school. Obviously I want to impress my future employers.

The supper will be held at a fancier restaurant. It will be a mix of men and women lawyers.

What are some tips from the SS members?

Thanks in advance
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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GeorgeStrom said:
What are some tips from the SS members?

Thanks in advance
Be "pin striped" every which way.
THis is a job interview, no less.

Think James Bond without the women and the C&F.
 

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and put age into your profile .. ;)
 

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Smile. Smell good. Relax. Talk to everyone. Have a drink or two. Have fun. Show them that you're the kind of guy they will want to be around every day if they hire you. Stay professional though. Maybe get a phone number from a girl (not one in your party). That will impress the men.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Find out what they are looking for , i.e. "their ideal employee" even ask them this. I've done this several times in interviews.

Then future pace yourself into that role... Provide examples later on in the conversation that show you can provide that type of service to their firm.
 

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Find everything you know about that particular firm.

Make sure you know your sh1t.

Don't brag.

Don't talk too much.

Be humble.

Act enthusiastic and passionate about law but be careful not to kiss ass.

Avoid topics like politics or religion, your opinions could rub someone the wrong way.

Networking - try to get important contacts.

Do something that makes you stand out in a positive way from the rest of the students (A head above everyone else).

Remember that it is your job to sell yourself without looking like you are really trying too.
 

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TheSplat said:
Smile. Smell good. Relax. Talk to everyone. Have a drink or two. Have fun. Show them that you're the kind of guy they will want to be around every day if they hire you. Stay professional though. Maybe get a phone number from a girl (not one in your party). That will impress the men.
This guy's on track, although I'm not exactly sure I'd try to pick up a girl. Remember, this is a job interview. The most important thing is to make sure everyone likes you--people hire people they like.

If you can, try to find out what type of people they hire. For example, in the accounting industry, the now-defunct Arthur Anderson had a pretty strict type of person they were looking for--very professional, hard working, good grades. However, Price-Waterhouse-Coopers look for more laid-back people that can get along anywhere; their recruiting process on campus involved barcrawls and drinking games. In my year, PwC hired my roommate, who was really outgoing and even has a dance minor, and the quarterback to the football team.

By far (and this goes for more than just job interviews), the most important thing is to be able to read people. If they want to stay professional and ask job/school questions, go that route. If they want to talk about what your weekend was like, try to get a feel for what type of stuff they do, and see if you can find a similar interest to talk about. I usually find out what type of music they listen to and go from there, since I'm a musician myself and will be able to talk.

Let us know how it goes!
 

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Thanks for the advice everyone, I'll put it to work!

I won't just be focused (purely) on impressing or getting the job.

I will definitely portray myself as someone that they would like to hang around with everyday at the workplace.
 

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If possible, contact your career services office and get in contact with someone from your law school who is a recent graduate and with the firm. If you can contact that person, they should be able to tell you what firm life is like for the associates and what qualities the partners are looking for. Tailor your behavior accordingly.

Do your homework on the firm yourself -- read up on them. Know their practice areas, office locations, and billables requirement.

Also, don't be the first person to "talk shop" (i.e. about law, law school, lawyering, etc.) at the table. It'll make you look uninteresting and boring.

Oh yeah -- and bring CASH with you to the event. If it's a really nice place, you'll want to have money to tip bartenders (if there are drinks before dinner), valets, coat check people, etc. Doing so will make you look professional and attentive to detail. Even if the firm takes care of all that, you never know when you're going to be in a situation where you'll need a couple bucks and you don't want to look unprepared with only a credit card / debit card in your wallet.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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#41 said:
If possible, contact your career services office and get in contact with someone from your law school who is a recent graduate and with the firm. If you can contact that person, they should be able to tell you what firm life is like for the associates and what qualities the partners are looking for. Tailor your behavior accordingly.

Do your homework on the firm yourself -- read up on them. Know their practice areas, office locations, and billables requirement.

Also, don't be the first person to "talk shop" (i.e. about law, law school, lawyering, etc.) at the table. It'll make you look uninteresting and boring.

Oh yeah -- and bring CASH with you to the event. If it's a really nice place, you'll want to have money to tip bartenders (if there are drinks before dinner), valets, coat check people, etc. Doing so will make you look professional and attentive to detail. Even if the firm takes care of all that, you never know when you're going to be in a situation where you'll need a couple bucks and you don't want to look unprepared with only a credit card / debit card in your wallet.

Thanks a lot buddy..

Yeah, will give me a good excuse to hit up a girl I know who works at the firm, maybe make a friend or two...

and true enough about the tips. I'm usually only going around with my credit card...I'll make note to bring some cashola
 
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