"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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This other one rumoured to have fiancé ....

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So as you say about spinning more plates, regardless of what happens in this other situation in my other thread.

There's other new woman around the gym she's about 25. She looks at me constantly like the whole time I'm there when she is. One of the staff dudes there tried to pick her up. I think he was rejected in person. I saw it happen

I was talking to the other guys there supposedly she has a fiancé.
That could be true, she's there alone every time.

I thought about approaching her as she looks at me and smiles like non-frigging stop for two months. I sometimes wonder if she wants me to talk to her judging by her smiles and facial expressions.

Should I bother even if she has a fiancé? that's what one guy said. Is it true? I have no idea it looks like she on the prowl to me. If she does, she giving that girl looking to meet a guy in a club vibe. She watches me even in the distance, corner of her eye as I walk by etc.

I mean I'l approach her to talk and be nice but Im aware that she could be taken. anyone dealt with this?
 
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Talk to her. Ask her out. You'll find out if she has a fiancé.

I will, she her eyes glued to me all the time. She has a perfect body, face is ok not as good as the body, all the staff guys talk about her. But still, if she does have a fiancé.... that would be weird, its like I wonder if her situation is good or bad. Not holding my breath on this one.
 

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Unless she tells you... she is fair-game aka single.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Look, if she does turn out to have a fiance, I wouldn't fvck with it. Theres so many other girls. Drama-free=better life.
 

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I'm playing with an engaged woman right now. You go as far as she let's you to go. Don't push your luck too much.

One American guy once told me "As long as nobody knows about this , it's fine"
 

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Try if you must but there is always payback. It may not happen today, tomorrow or maybe even next year. But, if you ever decide to wife up a woman, what you are doing now will always be in the back of your mind. You could be that fiancé.
 

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Try if you must but there is always payback. It may not happen today, tomorrow or maybe even next year. But, if you ever decide to wife up a woman, what you are doing now will always be in the back of your mind. You could be that fiancé.

I know but its assuming you have the same value to her as he did.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Well, if you can confirm she does have a fiancé then you better believe he has a high value to her. It's not always about love either. Women marry for mental/physical security, economic status or maybe even sheer convenience.

I'm not making any judgements on you or the situation though. But, I've learned from my own experiences that any woman is capable of cheating at anytime given the right circumstance(s) and the right person.

As the saying goes...sooner or later you will be the shoe on that other foot.
 

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Well, if you can confirm she does have a fiancé then you better believe he has a high value to her. It's not always about love either. Women marry for mental/physical security, economic status or maybe even sheer convenience.

I'm not making any judgements on you or the situation though. But, I've learned from my own experiences that any woman is capable of cheating at anytime given the right circumstance(s) and the right person.

As the saying goes...sooner or later you will be the shoe on that other foot.
It may not even be true, one of the guys there is constantly hitting on her. I dont think he had any hope in hell. But who knows.
 

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It may not even be true, one of the guys there is constantly hitting on her. I dont think he had any hope in hell. But who knows.
Hence, until she tells you.... it is fair game

Fiance rumour might be a ****block attempt and you might be the only one with a pass through the door
 

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Hence, until she tells you.... it is fair game

Fiance rumour might be a ****block attempt and you might be the only one with a pass through the door

I confirmed it tonight, she does someone verified behind the scenes . whatever
 

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Well, you can still make your play for her. Believe me...she will find a way to hook up with you if that is her goal. Women will do anything to get at you when they are DTF you. They will make it extremely easy. But, you have to approach her to see if her interest is real or just perceived (mistakenly by you).

Just be careful you don't look for anything more if you do hook up with her. It would be absolute proof that she is untrustworthy, not long term material and certainly not marriage material.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Well, you can still make your play for her. Believe me...she will find a way to hook up with you if that is her goal. Women will do anything to get at you when they are DTF you. They will make it extremely easy. But, you have to approach her to see if her interest is real or just perceived (mistakenly by you).

Just be careful you don't look for anything more if you do hook up with her. It would be absolute proof that she is untrustworthy, not long term material and certainly not marriage material.
No she definetly doing the looking BS I saw it all tonight. But I really hope the other ones comes through. She works tomorrow so we'll see how that goes.
 
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