"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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This other one rumoured to have fiancé ....

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So as you say about spinning more plates, regardless of what happens in this other situation in my other thread.

There's other new woman around the gym she's about 25. She looks at me constantly like the whole time I'm there when she is. One of the staff dudes there tried to pick her up. I think he was rejected in person. I saw it happen

I was talking to the other guys there supposedly she has a fiancé.
That could be true, she's there alone every time.

I thought about approaching her as she looks at me and smiles like non-frigging stop for two months. I sometimes wonder if she wants me to talk to her judging by her smiles and facial expressions.

Should I bother even if she has a fiancé? that's what one guy said. Is it true? I have no idea it looks like she on the prowl to me. If she does, she giving that girl looking to meet a guy in a club vibe. She watches me even in the distance, corner of her eye as I walk by etc.

I mean I'l approach her to talk and be nice but Im aware that she could be taken. anyone dealt with this?
 
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Talk to her. Ask her out. You'll find out if she has a fiancé.

I will, she her eyes glued to me all the time. She has a perfect body, face is ok not as good as the body, all the staff guys talk about her. But still, if she does have a fiancé.... that would be weird, its like I wonder if her situation is good or bad. Not holding my breath on this one.
 

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Unless she tells you... she is fair-game aka single.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Look, if she does turn out to have a fiance, I wouldn't fvck with it. Theres so many other girls. Drama-free=better life.
 

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I'm playing with an engaged woman right now. You go as far as she let's you to go. Don't push your luck too much.

One American guy once told me "As long as nobody knows about this , it's fine"
 

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Try if you must but there is always payback. It may not happen today, tomorrow or maybe even next year. But, if you ever decide to wife up a woman, what you are doing now will always be in the back of your mind. You could be that fiancé.
 

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Try if you must but there is always payback. It may not happen today, tomorrow or maybe even next year. But, if you ever decide to wife up a woman, what you are doing now will always be in the back of your mind. You could be that fiancé.

I know but its assuming you have the same value to her as he did.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Well, if you can confirm she does have a fiancé then you better believe he has a high value to her. It's not always about love either. Women marry for mental/physical security, economic status or maybe even sheer convenience.

I'm not making any judgements on you or the situation though. But, I've learned from my own experiences that any woman is capable of cheating at anytime given the right circumstance(s) and the right person.

As the saying goes...sooner or later you will be the shoe on that other foot.
 

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Well, if you can confirm she does have a fiancé then you better believe he has a high value to her. It's not always about love either. Women marry for mental/physical security, economic status or maybe even sheer convenience.

I'm not making any judgements on you or the situation though. But, I've learned from my own experiences that any woman is capable of cheating at anytime given the right circumstance(s) and the right person.

As the saying goes...sooner or later you will be the shoe on that other foot.
It may not even be true, one of the guys there is constantly hitting on her. I dont think he had any hope in hell. But who knows.
 

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It may not even be true, one of the guys there is constantly hitting on her. I dont think he had any hope in hell. But who knows.
Hence, until she tells you.... it is fair game

Fiance rumour might be a ****block attempt and you might be the only one with a pass through the door
 

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Hence, until she tells you.... it is fair game

Fiance rumour might be a ****block attempt and you might be the only one with a pass through the door

I confirmed it tonight, she does someone verified behind the scenes . whatever
 

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Well, you can still make your play for her. Believe me...she will find a way to hook up with you if that is her goal. Women will do anything to get at you when they are DTF you. They will make it extremely easy. But, you have to approach her to see if her interest is real or just perceived (mistakenly by you).

Just be careful you don't look for anything more if you do hook up with her. It would be absolute proof that she is untrustworthy, not long term material and certainly not marriage material.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Well, you can still make your play for her. Believe me...she will find a way to hook up with you if that is her goal. Women will do anything to get at you when they are DTF you. They will make it extremely easy. But, you have to approach her to see if her interest is real or just perceived (mistakenly by you).

Just be careful you don't look for anything more if you do hook up with her. It would be absolute proof that she is untrustworthy, not long term material and certainly not marriage material.
No she definetly doing the looking BS I saw it all tonight. But I really hope the other ones comes through. She works tomorrow so we'll see how that goes.
 
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