You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
lolpenkitten said:or my personal oldie:
this guy at this club who was cute and seemed nice asked for my number after i danced with him. well i dont want to pick up someone in a club but i didnt want him to feel rejected so i gave him a fake number instead.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
penkitten said:well i dont want to pick up someone in a club but i didnt want him to feel rejected so i gave him a fake number instead.
Mularkey. We've got to stop pretending like women are magical. Most of my experience with women's intuition is that it's dead wrong. They get some "intuitous" idea in their heads based on some nonexistant or irrelevant facts and it's like beating a dead horse to change it despite it being wrong as hell.minda said:Women can pick up on whether a guy has deliberated over whether to call them one day or three days later!! We have amazing intuition.
Sit around? She was probably out doing her own stuff. Who the hell sits by the phone anymore?You should ask yourselves whether you'd actually want to be with a woman who is happy to sit around waiting for a guy to call three days later...she may not have that much self confidence!
Why would a guy want to come off as interested in you? I didn't know the code of knightly chivalry included how quickly to call a girl.On the other hand, a guy who calls the next day (not morning, we are talking late evening here) comes across as chivalrous and interested in you.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Okay, that can happen, but it is true that we have a larger corpus callosum than men - a structure in our brains that allows us to integrate sensory information from all modalities and from each hemisphere. SO, we may have more correct intuitions than men.mrRuckus said:Mularkey. We've got to stop pretending like women are magical. Most of my experience with women's intuition is that it's dead wrong. They get some "intuitous" idea in their heads based on some nonexistant or irrelevant facts and it's like beating a dead horse to change it despite it being wrong as hell.
Actually, women still count the number of days it takes a guy to call, don't tell yourself otherwise. Even if we are out at the gym, or shopping, or whatever, we still check our cell phone messages every hour to see if we missed something.mrRuckus said:Sit around? She was probably out doing her own stuff. Who the hell sits by the phone anymore?
Hmmm, sorry buddy, it's in there.mrRuckus said:Why would a guy want to come off as interested in you? I didn't know the code of knightly chivalry included how quickly to call a girl.
What does being able to communicate between the hemispheres give you if you don't have the grey matter to be able to process the information to begin with? You end up with a whole lot of static.minda said:Okay, that can happen, but it is true that we have a larger corpus callosum than men - a structure in our brains that allows us to integrate sensory information from all modalities and from each hemisphere. SO, we may have more correct intuitions than men.
Good for them but why are you saying that?Actually, women still count the number of days it takes a guy to call
No it's not.Hmmm, sorry buddy, it's in there.
You weren't aware?
After all, why would you guys be asking advice about it?
If you don't want to come across as interested, what the hell are you doing contacting the girl at all?
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.