okay so the last two weeks i've literally had atleast eight-ten 8+'s show IOI's very clearly, a few were at warped tour, a few at cedar point, a few around locally, etc. this thread isn't to brag or so everyone thinks i am cool, and i consider myself to be decent looking and like alot of people have been told that i am handsome or good looking. my problem is that even when i can tell a girl is interested, i still have a problem initiating a convo. i pretty much fell in love w/ a girl the other day and we both gave eachother long ec and smiles, and she gave me many oppurtunities to start a convo, but i never did. i don't know why or what causes this, i am a little nervous but no that nervous. when i start the convo i am fine, but starting is the problem. what do you do to pump yourselves up before you make the approach? any help is appreciated.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
this is getting old.....
- Thread starter swaptrex
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Try to make sure you have something to say 
- For me, it wasn't about pumping myself up, it was about realising what I was afraid of. That was: I'm afraid that there will be an awkward silence, not the rejection. To get around that problem I try to have a stadard "rap" that I use, just a few stories, topics, jokes, ****y negs or compliments etc I know it's best to think of something specific about the girl but I'm not the best when I'm put on the spot, my fear just freezes me. Once the convo starts though, again like you I can think on my feet.
- For me, it wasn't about pumping myself up, it was about realising what I was afraid of. That was: I'm afraid that there will be an awkward silence, not the rejection. To get around that problem I try to have a stadard "rap" that I use, just a few stories, topics, jokes, ****y negs or compliments etc I know it's best to think of something specific about the girl but I'm not the best when I'm put on the spot, my fear just freezes me. Once the convo starts though, again like you I can think on my feet.