"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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wonderboy040587

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i work at some kinda festival thing, every thursday to sunday i work at festivals in different cities and there are ppl from different cities also. well there was this hottie, that works there and i started talking to her last show.
she works across where i was working, she seemed interested, we kept lookin at each other ,she would come beside me and talk to me and stuff well then i learned that she was in love with this guy there and the guy didn't want her... so anyways when we were talking in back together, that guy walked by us, and she said that she hates all the guys, then she said "but i like you" well i don't know if she said that as i like you as a friend or as a potential ****er...
also she's a little older that me, i'm 17 and she is 18 or 19
what do you guys think?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Wonderbread166

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I see no problem..

GO FOR IT. What exactly are you afraid of? Since you don't want her as a friend, it's all or nothing. You're wasting your time if you're worried about her boyfriend.
 

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you better hurry cuz right now you REALLY look like her girl-friend. I mean she tells you who she likes... unless she's trying to make you jealous, you sound like you're galpal-ing it up. Don't let the age thing play ANY role in talking to her, that sh!t is blown way outta proportion and doesn't matter once you get down to essentials
 

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If she said she hated all the other guys but she liked you when the guy she fancys walks past then she could be trying to make him jealous or something. Microphone Fiend is right you'd better hurry otherwise you're going to make it harder for yourself.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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First of all, you shouldn't be asking these questions. They are a waste of energy that could be used to make yourself the prize.

Second, don't be her emotional tampon. If you're only there to help her get over her problems, you two see your friendship/whatever-you-want-to-call-it in different lights which isn't going to get you anywhere.

Third, if you flirted with her you'd have a few answers to questions you're probably curious about.

And yes, microphone is right. You need to hurry.
 

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Hurry? Hurry and do what?

i know all about not goin into the friends side... i've busting her balls and doin all the techniques i know but she just said... ohh also when she said it, the guy was already down the road so she didn't try to make him jealous or anything that's for sure...
 

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oooh is that it?

kino? ppl have been telling me to hurry up and use kino

allright i'm probably gonna see her.. so we stay in hotels and usually drink every night. Let's see if i can get laid... I'll be sure to keep u updated... bye
 

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Originally posted by wonderboy040587
oooh is that it?

kino? ppl have been telling me to hurry up and use kino

allright i'm probably gonna see her.. so we stay in hotels and usually drink every night. Let's see if i can get laid... I'll be sure to keep u updated... bye
lol, please go read the bible some more
Kino is one of the subtle things you do, but the whole attraction phase can be subtle. Just look for a post by Pook and read it, they tend to round out the basic insight on the Dj world enuff
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Good luck with it. If you think you've got enough attraction try kino and rapport with a bit of attraction stuff thrown in. Thats the only advice I can think of at mo.
 
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