"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Namelisswonder5

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Ok so Im a dj lol no I try to be a dj im a dj in training. Im a junior in high school and life is fairly good with the ladies, and bassically if I like a girl I can get her to like me, or at least enough to hook up with me. Such is the case with the girl I will discuss In this post. Lets call her Loco, since that is part of her nickname. Ok this is a gorgeous girl that I met in my pshch. class and we pretty much hit it off. I said I wanted to see this movie (not asking her out) and she in turn said shed love to take me so we went on our first date, this was two weeks ago. I took it slow and after the movie we went to dennys at like 12:45 at night I got home at about 1:45 and only took like a bit more than a peck, she wanted more, but I wanted her wanting more so I just hopped out of the car and went home. Last week she ask me to the fair after I ask her to an amusement park but she had already had the plans for the fair. I said yeah seeing that this would be a good opportunity for me to meet her best friends and for her to meet mine. I would have to say that the fair was a dissaster but I was still good. See at the fair I picked her up, and her chest is so ginormous that her wrist got rolled in her chest, and I almost broke her wrist. Then thinking she was playing I laughed until I noticed she was crying. I then won her this huge teddy bear and she got over it, and me and her friends went to her house. Her parents werent home and we decided to party, yes high schoolers partying with alchohol, there was only 7 of us tho so its ok. Ok so later that night me and her went up to her room and were doing some spooning cause we were both tired, ( i had drank, she didnt) and even later we made out a little. Then her and my best friend got into it at about 1:15 in the morning and she kicked him out so I had to leave to since he is my ride. I left though, knowing that her friends love me, and she likes me (her friends i think much more than her though).Even with all that this monday we were still cool, and I was planning to ask her out this weekend.........So today I got a sample of some old spice body spray, i didnt want it so i gave it to her (in psych class). She threw it at me flirtingly, and I sprayed it all over her. She then flirted a little bit with me but not much at all compared to what she ussually does that period. And also she was sending a suspicious looking note back and forth to her friend which was gay. THE REAL STORY STARTS HERE. After class she walked out without speaking to me. When I was in the hall she pops out from no where and sprays the rest of the body spray all over me, and runs away laughing, so I shout down the hall "I hate you Loco." Then the period after that she sends me a message saying, "Pay backs a *****.. Bye ..*..Loco..*.." So I replied "Yeah it will be a ***** when I get payback on you. Laters." Then she says out of the blue "Ur such an ass.. Ur just like all the other boys..N im not kidding anymore! Really dont talk 2 me." So I shocked replied " Do you really feel that way, if so why the change of heart." She just said "Ill tell you later." So I wnna know if anyone sees where I went wrong here, or knows what I should do. My friend d says that she wouldnt be so mad at me if she didnt like me and I kinda agree. It was like one minute we were hittin it off, the next she flippin out. I need help any ideas?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Namelisswonder5

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Originally posted by Docs
I'm a real noob.
What's spooning?
That would be cuddling in a position like spoons fit into each other, woman in front man in back really close.
 

LikRetsam

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Put some effort in to your post if you want replies.

Word of advice: paragraphs.
 

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I don't see what you did wrong. A lot of girls tell me that I'm an ass, but it's usually in a playful tone. You should've ignored her after she told you not to talk to her anymore. She probably would've wondered why you weren't talking to her and then initiated a convo.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Evangenlion

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lets see now.

after the long read (another kid who doesn't use paragraphs, which means he doesn't pay attention in class which means...)

you acted like an A$$ and so you are an A$$.

There is border line to being a jerk and all out JERK.
you entered the ALL out jerk.

you and your friend didn't act to well at her house.

be a jerk, but do be a charming bastard while at it.
treat her well once in dam while.

she's thinking all u want from her is just to make out.
she's not looking for that in u.
now she thinks your just pretending to be nice and funny etc
just to get into her pants.
now u just a created another chick with "all men are dogs" mentality.
you disappiont the male species man.

grow up.

start being a man and stop acting immature.
this is while younger girls go out with older guys, cus of kids like u.
 

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I'd say one of her friends wrote it. It happens to me a lot, just guessing.
 

Namelisswonder5

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Originally posted by Evangenlion
lets see now.

after the long read (another kid who doesn't use paragraphs, which means he doesn't pay attention in class which means...)

you acted like an A$$ and so you are an A$$.

There is border line to being a jerk and all out JERK.
you entered the ALL out jerk.

you and your friend didn't act to well at her house.

be a jerk, but do be a charming bastard while at it.
treat her well once in dam while.

she's thinking all u want from her is just to make out.
she's not looking for that in u.
now she thinks your just pretending to be nice and funny etc
just to get into her pants.
now u just a created another chick with "all men are dogs" mentality.
you disappiont the male species man.

grow up.

start being a man and stop acting immature.
this is while younger girls go out with older guys, cus of kids like u.
I love joining forums and making enimies. First off my friend acted like a jerk, not I, in fact her AND her friends loved me. SHE called ME last night like nothing was happening, and SHE set up a date for Friday, once again im not driving, that would be a waste of my gas money son. And your right im a jerk a big jerk, but im also a DJ who runs shiznit on my campus so im sorry i didnt act like you mustve when you were a kid. And oh yeah im hella immature i got a 3.7 and i placed 4th in state last year in wrestling, and ive been a police explorer for 2 1/2 years. Im bad and ive got everything going for me in life, so you my friend dissapoint me. Ill never grow im a toys r us kid SON. You proly mad cause you used to be a Don Juan now your name is just Twain
 

Evangenlion

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listen kid, i wasn't the one running here panicing and asking for advise.

this girl made you trip, not me.
you have no issue with me.
don't make one.
don't be assuming something you don't know.

you love forums to make enemies, that your problem, not mine.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Mr. Debonaire

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Originally posted by Evangenlion
lets see now.

after the long read (another kid who doesn't use paragraphs, which means he doesn't pay attention in class which means...)

you acted like an A$$ and so you are an A$$.

There is border line to being a jerk and all out JERK.
you entered the ALL out jerk.

you and your friend didn't act to well at her house.

be a jerk, but do be a charming bastard while at it.
treat her well once in dam while.

she's thinking all u want from her is just to make out.
she's not looking for that in u.
now she thinks your just pretending to be nice and funny etc
just to get into her pants.
now u just a created another chick with "all men are dogs" mentality.
you disappiont the male species man.

grow up.

start being a man and stop acting immature.
this is while younger girls go out with older guys, cus of kids like u.
Easy killer

He might have a gone a little overboard on the jerkiness, but it didn't deserve all of that.

Its also possible that this girl is seeking attention, which was suggested when instead of saying don't talk to me ever again, she said "I'll tell you later"
 
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