"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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This girl is so difficult, please help me?

Charzilla

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Ok so i met this girl a few weeks back, after a while of hanging out with some friends, her included, she told me she liked me so i told her i liked her too. Ever since then her best friend was like a messenger between us and helped me out with her. We were both shy but someone had to start the conversation so most of the time i was the one talking to her while she still was shy but she's not as shy as she was anymore and now im the one messing up with the shyness. She can be really *****y and then just like apologize a few hours later, she acts really tough around me now. So like whenever i tried to get closer to her she got *****y and like either started something or moved away so i sorta dont even try to get close to her anymore. I dont act the same as before around her, its harder for me to because i guess im afraid she'll act up again and make me look like a fool infront of people but when i do nothing, she thinks i lost interest in her so i have to explain to her that i dont, that its just hard for me to act around her. We talk online and stuff and im pretty good at it with her but when it comes to face to face i cant really make a move because im afraid of that temporary rejection. I asked her out but she said she wasn't sure, i know shes really interested in me but i really cant make the moves on her, to add to it we've even kissed twice. Everytime i tell myself i will, i get confident but when that time comes, i feel like a loser and loose it all. I need help on how to approach her and another thing is that i really dont know what to talk about with her, i feel like i want to start up a conversation between us to get closer but i cant think of a thing.She just acts so hard, Her friend has told me to just go out there and do it, and if people are around her then to just interrupt to get to her and stuff but i cant. So can anybody help me on how to approach her and act around her.
 
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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jeffthechef

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did you read the fukin dj bible? lmao cause it doesn't seem like it.

BE AN ALPHA. Be a man.
If you want to talk to her, talk to her. If you want her to stop *****ing, ask her why she gets so *****y. if she never opens up, then you'll never get anywhere. But perhaps you should take her out somewhere before you try to get close. Stop letting her wear the pants, cause now you're the one getting cold, which means your man tools are getting cold and curling up into a fetal position to warm itself. She's going to begin to laugh and realize how much she owns you. That analogy made ****ty sense. just be a man.
 
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and another thing is that i really dont know what to talk about with her
What do you like to talk about? You don't have to have a set of things to talk about. Just be yourself and have fun. If you treat her almost like a buddy, you'll get far.

She's a girl so what's the worst thing she can do? Slap you? Girls are just like us. They eat, they sh it, they have insecurities just like the rest of us, and they want to have fun in life.
 

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Didn't read your post, but usually in HS, Too Difficult = Not worth it.
 

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UPDATE- Well tommorrow we're going to the movies with a few friends, so i'm thinking this is my perfect chance to start getting to talk to her more. Most of the people going anyway will be in couples except for me and her and maybe another friend of mine. I think that settles that part of getting her out somewhere even though its not just us.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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