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Senior Don Juan
Same here, but I did read one or two, at some point.KarmaSutra said:Agreed Brother KontrollerX.
And I'll let you guys in on a little tidbit:
I've never read a Pook post in my life. Not one.
Don't plan to either.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Same here, but I did read one or two, at some point.KarmaSutra said:Agreed Brother KontrollerX.
And I'll let you guys in on a little tidbit:
I've never read a Pook post in my life. Not one.
Don't plan to either.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
True bet every so often, we get someone who got dumped, they are lonely, so they look back and think about how great their ex use to be 5 years ago.DonGorgon said:this board is fine...
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Welcome and make sure to go to the "DJ BIBLE" link at the bottom of the page and reading the dj bible as well as downloading and reading the other stuff on that page. You actually seam like one the brave ones who actually want something out of your life and is willing to go for it, so no need to worry about negativity. Just understand the DJ principles, apply it to your life and start using what is appropriate and discarding what doesn't fit your style. Best of luck bro.sosilky said:I actualy just joined this week. I like the book Wish i knew what you mean about it getting negative in here. Hope I'm not contributiing to that.
Pity is very underrated. If people pity you, it gives you reason not to change.gtownjuan said:How can people who really want to change stand a chance here anymore. I know that if i wanna be better then i will change to become better. But what about when I had no sense of better two years ago and stumped on this site and found definition and inspiration for better. Now how can a AFC in 2008 undergo that same change with what has happened to this forum?? This place needs cleaning up and we are the ones who must take responsibility and fix it, on DJ at a time.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
yea I know what u mean. I think when I first saw this site, it was like a the matrix being revealed the first time. So every post would have fasinated me. Now, because I have seen it so many times, i guess its become boring.Deadly, are you sure maybe the forum hasn't always been this way? I mean when you had posters like Pook and Anti-Dump here, you still had those whiny AFC types who would type every minuet detail on how their date went with some girl who shot them down. You would still have guys who were extremely anti female, etc.
Maybe the great stuff you've already read in the past and maybe you're glossing over the many wonderful post that are happening today? I mean sometimes you can have your fill of this site and you might need to take a break, y'know
The past is dead. I only have reference to posts which have changed and re molded by unique paradigm. This is why I love to read from the brothers I do. Victory Unlimited, Rollo, Interceptor, STR8UP, Joekerr, and every regular contributor to the MM forum.ThunderMaverick said:.....none of it is better than what Rollo, Joekerr, VU, Fingz and many others have posted. I met many situations in life that these posters and others above have been through. I've taken most of their incredible advice and it has worked for me more than Pook ever had. In it's core, what every mature guy I've mentioned here really talks about is...true self awareness and true self improvement. Pook knew how to tell a great story, but his advice and experience wasn't far off from guys like LATINOMAN, STR8UP and even Backbreaker.
This is why I like the mature man's forum so much. It's not about "bagging chicks". Bagging chicks should always be secondary to being better than who you were last week or the year before. Afterall, if you don't like yourself you'll end up like "Mystery". Sure you can bang chicks. So can any meat head frat guy.
Nothings changed here. People like the men above will continue to write great threads and maybe one day when or if they ever leave this place my experience alone will be able to be passed on to new members here who desperately looked for answers everywhere but here.
Now to you guys who talk about how it "used to be" take your "used to be"s and start another forum. Your b!tching is no good to anyone here.
See, that's the THING, though. The "veterans" didn't care about the "forum". They were womanizers. The forum was just a means of discussing information.Jitterbug said:This seems to be one popular theme on every forum. There's another forum I've been a member of for 8 years. Every now and then, there are a few veterans who come back from their long hiatus, pine for the good old times and cr@p on how bad the forum has become, completely forgetting that the good old times were just as bad/good. It was just different. And people are generally bad at adapting to changes.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
squirrels said:The two posts by women, which each have 5 or more pages of replies, showing how much guys on here are just dying to look good in the face of women like iqqi, who is probably an ugly tramp herself?
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.