"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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This fat girl I was dating and into has lost interest it seems.

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she seemed very interested in me and even said she fantasized about me before and we made out almost had sex and everything. Only thing I know I did wrong she wanted me to open up and talk to her about my past and just told her things didnt work out with ex and also when i learned about lover vs provider roles it was just ugh and i remember when i told her she was sexy or you look cute right now she said "is this what they tell you to say" So now i am trying to get her on 3rd date and she is blowing me off saying I have to see about date thursday and she has to exercise and check on her dogs.

So how do I recover from this? Also how do I avoid opening up to women EVER when they are forcing me to or wanting me to and how do I get over this lover vs provider crap and just enjoy life and mess with these broads?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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So you alledgedly go from banging a stripper to being dumped by a fat chick? Something doesn't sound right.

Easiest way to not get dumped by fat chicks is to not go out with them in the first place.

Maybe call her up and invite her to the buffet...that usually works, lol
 
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I have these internal issues we connected emotionally like I said we talked about this stuff. Also I remember we were at bar she was talking about her ex husband I remember saying this is how the world is people are the way they are talking somewhat negative. I showed her my yearbook. Look at you you are so cute! You are saying all this and being cynical and the world is terrible.

I feel like I potrayed myself like a child or kid or unattractive infront of her last date and thats why she is avoiding me. So I need help on this issue so I do NOT look feminine or have weak male traits or conversations with girls.

HELP

(With stripper I barely even talked to her and she didnt force me to open up thats why it seemed a little easier)
 

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I have these internal issues we connected emotionally like I said we talked about this stuff. Also I remember we were at bar she was talking about her ex husband I remember saying this is how the world is people are the way they are talking somewhat negative. I showed her my yearbook. Look at you you are so cute! You are saying all this and being cynical and the world is terrible.

I feel like I potrayed myself like a child or kid or unattractive infront of her last date and thats why she is avoiding me. So I need help on this issue so I do NOT look feminine or have weak male traits or conversations with girls.

HELP

(With stripper I barely even talked to her and she didnt force me to open up thats why it seemed a little easier)
Interesting.

You know how guys here on SS always state to not let women use you as an emotional tampon for dumping all their problems on you like you're their psychiatrist? Sounds to me like you did exactly that with this chick and she wasn't having it.

You're right though, you are acting like a child.
 

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Interesting.

You know how guys here on SS always state to not let women use you as an emotional tampon for dumping all their problems on you like you're their psychiatrist? Sounds to me like you did exactly that with this chick and she wasn't having it.

You're right though, you are acting like a child.
They dont' even have to voice their problems on you. Sometimes they do it silently using you as a prop and not really listening to you, and it basically stifles you and puts their BS squarely on your back.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Point is how do I get rid of this how do I stop? THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK OUT FOR ME this has happend to me several times more than once. Its like she bugs me and **** and wants me to open up and know about my past and everything.
 

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she seemed very interested in me and even said she fantasized about me before and we made out almost had sex and everything. Only thing I know I did wrong she wanted me to open up and talk to her about my past and just told her things didnt work out with ex and also when i learned about lover vs provider roles it was just ugh and i remember when i told her she was sexy or you look cute right now she said "is this what they tell you to say" So now i am trying to get her on 3rd date and she is blowing me off saying I have to see about date thursday and she has to exercise and check on her dogs.

So how do I recover from this? Also how do I avoid opening up to women EVER when they are forcing me to or wanting me to and how do I get over this lover vs provider crap and just enjoy life and mess with these broads?
The way you recover from this is to have some sense of self respect for yourself AND STOP DATING FAT CHICKS....
 

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Point is how do I get rid of this how do I stop? THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK OUT FOR ME this has happend to me several times more than once. Its like she bugs me and **** and wants me to open up and know about my past and everything.
Keep it light and funny. When a chick asks about why you are not with yiu ex, say its a long and complicated story. Ailens have abducted her and ive been alone ever since......

Don't talk about your past. What she is asking when they ask about an ex is this:

Girl "why didn't it work between you and your ex."

Translation "what is wrong with you and why shouldn't i like you either."

Be a challenge. Make them work for your story. Stay light and funny
 
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ok point is how do i fix this? Also how do I internalize this crap and never say **** to women or take them serious!?
I want hank moodys mind
 

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So how do I recover from this? Also how do I avoid opening up to women EVER when they are forcing me to or wanting me to and how do I get over this lover vs provider crap and just enjoy life and mess with these broads?
You showed her your hand before the flop as they say in poker! And now, she's no longer interested. Sounds like you have no game or very little. Did you read the DJ bible a few hundred times? If not, I suggest you do. If you understood how the game works, you wouldn't be asking for recovery help in a pathetically simple situation as this. Dump this mess immediately, hit the gym, get some new clothes and avoid fat chicks unless you need a quick bj of desperation to stay sane. But most importantly, learn from this and never go there again. Let the woman chase you and always be a mystery, since you've seem to have forgotten that that's the way it works.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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i understand the mystery have women chase but HOW TO BE IT exactly!? What do you say to women at these moments or how do I know what to say?!?? DO I need routines or what!?
 

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ok point is how do i fix this? Also how do I internalize this crap and never say **** to women or take them serious!?
I want hank moodys mind
If she is layghing and having a good time you don't need to fix it.
 

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There is nothing wrong with hitting a fat chick now and then. I have screwed a few cute fatties in my time and they provided some excellent sex.

But you have to game them the same way you would a fit chick. Don't pour out your emotions. Be aloof and apply kino.

Just because she is fat dosent mean the rules change.
 

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There is nothing wrong with hitting a fat chick now and then. I have screwed a few cute fatties in my time and they provided some excellent sex.

But you have to game them the same way you would a fit chick. Don't pour out your emotions. Be aloof and apply kino.

Just because she is fat dosent mean the rules change.
1) Yes there is
2) There is no such thing as a "cute fattie"
 

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She dumped you for dating her.

She would not be a member of any club that would have her as a member.

There is no such thing as a "cute fattie"
I'm not sure that's true. I saw a fat girl in Cleveland in a coffee shop once who was so gorgeous I couldn't take my eyes off her. Then again that was 6 years ago. In any event they are rare and probably only look good at certain moments.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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PS - Never trust a fat person in authority. They revert to evil dou-che-bag instantly at random, based on a lifetime of being told they are fat and/or the stress and physical problems it causes. There are also the dietary and health related reasons responsible (and it's not their f*cking thyroid though some Nascent Iodine would help). Seriously, if you can't manage your own body, you can't manage other people. Being (very) fat basically says "I'm a weak, pathetic, glutton and I'm not too happy about it".
 

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I'm not sure that's true. I saw a fat girl in Cleveland in a coffee shop once who was so gorgeous I couldn't take my eyes off her. Then again that was 6 years ago. In any event they are rare and probably only look good at certain moments.
I mean sometimes a fat girl's face isn't bad looking, I've seen fat girls and thought, "If she wasn't fat she could definitely be attractive" but the problem is... they're fat
 

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Don't date girls that are less attractive than you. Just date women on your level or above. The less attractive ones will give you the most problems due to their insecurity and what not.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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