"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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This 9/10 chick sucks so far

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You **** the bed with your text after she said it was forward. She weeded you out right away. You should have ignored the comment or sent back a smiley face. You sounded desperate as ****.

Her: that was forward
You: I have big muscles blah blah, you’re dad would freak blah blah, blah blah blah. Stop ****ing talking.
1. You realize your above post says “I’m jealous as ****”.
2. I told her flowers are creepy unless the chick is feeling the guy. She goes “I don’t think you have that problem”. This was before she ever went out with me.
3. ...chicks aren’t dumb bro. She’s sees a hundred women commenting on my photos. They know when a guy is desperate...and when a guy is used to getting what he wants.

I know I can replace this chick in two seconds. Which is why I come across as careless...and probably disrespectful. I was leaving the party and she came on to me.... pursued me. A desperate man can not even get a 9’s digits. Have fun being average your whole life
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I love how weak men would say roids when facing a man that has the body woman wants...even if roids was true...that **** is hard work to get a body...u still have to put in massive amount of work...but it does pay off.
 

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1. You realize your above post says “I’m jealous as ****”.
2. I told her flowers are creepy unless the chick is feeling the guy. She goes “I don’t think you have that problem”. This was before she ever went out with me.
3. ...chicks aren’t dumb bro. She’s sees a hundred women commenting on my photos. They know when a guy is desperate...and when a guy is used to getting what he wants.

I know I can replace this chick in two seconds. Which is why I come across as careless...and probably disrespectful. I was leaving the party and she came on to me.... pursued me. Have fun being average your whole life
You aren't fooling anyone here. If you're getting defensive when you're the one posting that means that you can't take criticism. If you want to argue with our advice then stop asking for it.
 

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Wtf is with all this damn yapping? Stop having conversations in text messages. Get the number, throw some ****y/funny, and get her out on a date. Don't ask for the damn hottub on the first encounter, stop being a creep.
This is what I’m gonna do. I’m gonna leave her alone for a few weeks...then ask her to something casual like a movie or hiking
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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You aren't fooling anyone here. If you're getting defensive when you're the one posting that means that you can't take criticism. If you want to argue with our advice then stop asking for it.
I have no issue with criticism. But when there is obvious jealousy that is another thing. When you call a man that has been in magazines desperate and bangs 8’s and 9’s regularly it makes you lose your credibility on here..”creepy”...depends, most guys put chicks on a pedestal... I feel like this girl would be lucky to sleep with me.
 
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I have no issue with criticism. But when there is obvious jealousy that is another thing. When you call a man that has been in magazines desperate and bangs 8’s and 9’s regularly it makes you lose your credibility on here..”creepy”...depends, most guys out chicks on a pedestal... I feel like this girl would be lucky to sleep with me.
You're value is fleeting at best.

Show pictures of the air headed girls that you get with.

Matter of fact, show pictures of this girl.

Muscles ain't sh1t in reality. I did 4 years in prison. There were very few people I was scared of in there, and it wasn't cause they had muscles.
 

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I have no issue with criticism. But when there is obvious jealousy that is another thing. When you call a man that has been in magazines desperate and bangs 8’s and 9’s regularly it makes you lose your credibility on here..”creepy”...depends, most guys put chicks on a pedestal... I feel like this girl would be lucky to sleep with me.
You may have that mindset, but your behavior in your text messages didn't display it. There is a incongruity with what you're saying and with how you feel. The issue could be that you're growing too careless with presumptive over-confidence, which tends to backfire. You need to calibrate differently.
 
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You may have that mindset, but your behavior in your text messages didn't display it. There is a incongruity with what you're saying and with how you feel. The issue could be that you're growing too careless with presumptive over-confidence, which tends to backfire. You need to calibrate differently.
He's 100% false confident.

This may fool stupid girls when they're young, but has no real value.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I don’t think you guys have any clue what it’s like to walk around at 225 7%bf. You develop a narcissistic complex.
You may have that mindset, but your behavior in your text messages didn't display it. There is a incongruity with what you're saying and with how you feel. The issue could be that you're growing too careless with presumptive over-confidence, which tends to backfire. You need to calibrate differently.
I agree with this. Remember man I pulled her number being my overly confident self. On the date she said “well I can tell you definitely like yourself” then she said she was joking.even though I know she was serious ..I admit that messed up my frame a little bit. Never had a chick call me out on that so early...**** only women I’ve dated said that to me. For this chick to flat out say it on the date I was like wow she’s got some balls
 

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I love how weak men would say roids when facing a man that has the body woman wants...even if roids was true...that **** is hard work to get a body...u still have to put in massive amount of work...but it does pay off.
Anybody who has spent enough time in the weight room knows what is and isn't possible naturally. And that simply possible naturally, so yes it is roids.

But that doesn't mean it doesn't take hard work and dedication...roids only makes it possible, it doesnt make it happen.

OP, are you taking an aromatase inhibitor?? Some of the stuff you do really leads me to believe your estradiol levels are out of whack.
 

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I don’t think you guys have any clue what it’s like to walk around at 225 7%bf. You develop a narcissistic complex.


I agree with this. Remember man I pulled her number being my overly confident self. On the date she said “well I can tell you definitely like yourself” then she said she was joking.even though I know she was serious ..I admit that messed up my frame a little bit. Never had a chick call me out on that so early...**** only women I’ve dated said that to me. For this chick to flat out say it on the date I was like wow she’s got some balls
It happens, always remember that it works better to let her compliment on your positive qualities. Ego vs Humility is not personality, they are both tools that a clever man will employ when necessary. In victory, be humble; in defeat, be egotistical. If you have the body of a god, don't verbalize it, let her soak it in for what it's worth. A great physique will allow you to rely less on your personality and grant you a more dominant frame from which to operate.
 

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Anybody who has spent enough time in the weight room knows what is and isn't possible naturally. And that simply possible naturally, so yes it is roids.

But that doesn't mean it doesn't take hard work and dedication...roids only makes it possible, it doesnt make it happen.

OP, are you taking an aromatase inhibitor?? Some of the stuff you do really leads me to believe your estradiol levels are out of whack.
I don’t think it’s an estrogen issue. It’s not like I’m being too emotional or falling in love with chicks overnight ...maybe I am too aggressive, but that assertiveness and confidence also is what helps me get these women to go out with me and do slutty **** with me on first dates. So my strengths are also unfortunately my biggest downfalls. I’m sick mentally ...I enjoy crazy women too.

I really don’t know what I did wrong in this situation with this girl. Usually,on the second date...I just ask a chick to come over. Im used to women making my life easy and not playing games...Why this one is different idk.

She did day she’s “indifferent” when it comes to dating ....and she doesn’t care care about texting guys she said “I won’t text them”...which was strange to me......she was basicly saying she doesn’t care about men. I feel like she may be a sociopath or something. I just don’t get the vibe she’s a sexual person...doubt she’s ever even given a guy head before and yeah she sucks in bed. Just wanna **** the **** out of her a few times and leave it
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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“Jealous” lol. And because you’re 225 and 7% bf you have to walk around narcissistically? Obviously it isn’t helping your frame at all
 
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Its a sh1t test, passing one is always a good thing rather than getting uptight. Why are you so jealous of him lol
Jealous of what?

Btw, what costs less....

1. $240 for a threesome with 2 Colombian hookers.

2. Spending your whole life in the gym so you can creepily invite girls into your Jacuzzi?
 

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Went out with a 9 recently after I hit it off with her at a party. We hit it off and she was pretty down to earth.....first actual Date went ok. Ask her out five days later

“You free this weekend? Wanted to grab food somewhere low key and grab drinks. Turn the hot tub on..you feel me”

Her “that last part is forward”
Need more details about the first date since you said it "went ok".

Her response is a soft rejection/shi* test.

If it were me, the conversation would've ended after her initial response. Your initial text was fine, but your responses started chasing...
 

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Boulder shoulders and big veiny arms. I can spot that **** a mile away and they still throw up ****ty numbers at the gym. The guy only doing 150 on lat pulldowns and his lats exploded in 3 weeks? Cmon now

Anybody who has spent enough time in the weight room knows what is and isn't possible naturally. And that simply possible naturally, so yes it is roids.

But that doesn't mean it doesn't take hard work and dedication...roids only makes it possible, it doesnt make it happen.

OP, are you taking an aromatase inhibitor?? Some of the stuff you do really leads me to believe your estradiol levels are out of whack.
 
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“Jealous” lol. And because you’re 225 and 7% bf you have to walk around narcissistically? Obviously it isn’t helping your frame at all
He's just a kid.

He probably just turned off Pokemon yesterday.

Btw, just to give you an idea of how delusional females are... Did you know that @BeExcellent thinks she can build decks, etc. just as well as you can... But she believes that she's "too smart" to spend her time doing it, so she chooses to hire a "fool" like you to do it for her? She also thinks men are so disposable that they should be sent off to die in wars while she sits home and does nothing.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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