"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Thinking too much?

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I recently added this girl that I used to talk to a little and went out with once or two on to facebook. I sent her a message saying lets get together for a drink to catch up. She responded like 5 days later to say she would love to. I saw her on AIM yesterday. I messaged her and got her number. Not a long talk. She did mention she comes to my part of the city alot. She also asked for mine. Talk to you soons and blah blah. I am of course going to wait till Sunday to call. My question is this...She told me she is really busy with work. Obviously she doesnt get a Saturday night or a Friday night normally but a professional woman may not have time during the week. I certainly dont have time to go meet her during the week in between patients. Exception here or am I getting way too caught up in following a formula and should just wing it when I call to set things up.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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When you call her just find out what days work for her. Compare that to what days work for you. Pick one that works for both of you. If she has enough IL she'll make time for you. Otherwise, NEXT.
 

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The 3 day rule is intended for newby's that have too much time on their hands. If your genuinely busy, call her and set something up. Chances are, it will be enough of a chore to get something set up, so don't bother waiting. Just tell her your busy and its got to be such and such a time sort of thing.
 

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Yeah I just looked at her profile and and it now says she is in a relationship. I think she just got moved to ONS status. F the 5 day rule. She will now get treated like a hook up.
 

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drmeathead said:
Yeah I just looked at her profile and and it now says she is in a relationship. I think she just got moved to ONS status.
I don't think you will get neither.

Think about it, its facebook - why would she all of the sudden advertise she is in a relationship?? Its an easy way to get rid of a guy who she doesn't want to see on a romantic level. In all likelyhood you are going to go for a drink and have fun but get a peck on the cheek for your trouble.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Yeah it makes no sense. It wasnt congrutent to anything during our conversation. Why not just say I have a boyfriend or somethnig about the boyfriend? Whatever boyfriends have not stopped me before.
 

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Hello Doc, you have not even gotten to having a cup of tea with this "professional woman " and already you are in confusion.
She is one of those femmes who deliberately transmit contradictory and incongruent information about themselves. IT appears that they think this is "clever".( MOre Cosmo crap ?) They seem to believe that this creates intrigue and spark interest in men. How dumb is that ? It is more likely to piss real men off totally . Our brains seek clarity.l
My guess is that she is just an "attention ho" or that she is wiilling to cheat on her relationship in some cheap motel because it "feels so romantic" .
Why would we even spend out valuable time and open up someone who is a teenage ho in an adult body with a diploma.

Go there at your own risk.
 

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I am not looking for anything serious. My last relationship was with a girl that BPD and that drained me. As the song says, "she may not be miss right but shell do right now"
 

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Yeah thats why I love still being school. College girls are easy
 

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so i ran into this girl randomly last night. she came over and said hi and was very friendly. then introed me to her bf. i was polite and said hello to him and his firend. then she tells me when he is out of earshot to give her a call and we would catch up when it was less crowded.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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so i called her sunday, two days after seeing her in the bar. she didnt pick up. i left a message saying i would call some other time.
 

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well, she wanted you to call her. She knows you called. Give her a little time, go goof around with other girls, maybe in a couple of weeks, even months, she'll think about you and call.

no stress
 

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i agree. the thing i learned about picking up an involved girl is not to call. they will call you when they can. it keeps thing sdiscrete
 

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DJDamage said:
I don't think you will get neither.

Think about it, its facebook - why would she all of the sudden advertise she is in a relationship?? Its an easy way to get rid of a guy who she doesn't want to see on a romantic level. In all likelyhood you are going to go for a drink and have fun but get a peck on the cheek for your trouble.
It just like MySpace, primarily used for social promotion and not much else.
 

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If she's not willing to make time to spend time with you, then it's not your job to go prancing around her schedule trying to steal 3 minutes of her time. You're ascribing her way too much value in this equation. You hardly KNOW her.

Date your other women who DO have time. If you're gonna be free and think she might be too, call her up and offer to take her on a date. If she can't because of a schedule conflict, this is HER issue, not yours.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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It sounds like you both have pretty demanding work schedules, so it's probably not wise to try to follow and of the "timing" guidelines here. Those are just guides for nervous guys who tend to get too pushy and needy. You already know this woman, so she already has a decent impression of you, otherwise she would not show any interest at all. If there is a time that works for both of you then just go with it and don't worry about any guidelines here that apply to getting the first date...they really don't apply or matter in your situation.

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Nevermind...I just read she has a boyfriend...if she'd get together with you while she has a b/f she'd do the same to you...don't waste your time.
 

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i sent her a text saying such and such a day at such and such a time this week. she texted me back saying she has to check her schedule at work tomorrow but it should work.

i know what you guys said about the bf and she will do that to me. i am not looking for anything more than a **** buddy or a hookup. we will see. she is simply a plate to spin.
 
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