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I looked in my crystal ball and I saw that in the year 2085, men will be able to purchase the realistic sex doll of their choice that is willing and able to do absolutely anything without giving them any attitude.

Women will only be able to procreate with poor men that can't afford a robot.
I want mine without vocal cords, please!
 

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@Jesse Pinkman

What you are mentioning has honestly been going on for quite a while now, it's been a growing trend over the past 10 years. There are a lot of stats showing sexlessness amongst young men has been becoming more and more prevalent, ironically starting around 2008 when the recession hit. I personally feel that what started it was not just the recession, but at that time social media and the internet were far more advanced and widely used compared to the previous major recession of the "dot com bubble" that was in the early 2000s. Basically you have a bunch of men that feel disengaged from society and the internet and video games became a coping mechanism. However, that's not really when we see these issues take off.

There are trends that showed around 2014/2015 is when we begin to see male sexlessness become a huge problem, ironically correlating with the widespread use of dating apps, such as tinder. When even fat and unattractive land whales feel entitled to some dude with bulging biceps you know we have a problem. Anecdotal evidence, but I've heard many men discuss how they felt the game changed around this time period, real life interactions and not posts on the internet.

What ends up happening is you now have a bunch of men that become burnt out by the dating climate for what it is and they just focus on other things in life. When you are getting nothing but rejection or just overall poor experiences, it would be totally logical to step away. These men didn't read some red pill or black pill posts or look up terms like "MGTOW", they literally just gave up due to frustration. The issue is this spiral makes it worse, at it creates even pickier and more insane women which leads to even more men giving up and checking out. I see the current dating market as a hyper competitive game of musical chairs, where you have a drove of men vying for a tiny number of available seats that are actually desirable, with the rest being undateable garbage.

I can understand all of this because I'm one of these men. In my early 30s I have a much stronger understanding of this compared to someone quite a bit younger. I've personally had nothing but bad experiences, in fact quite a few of them were extreme to say the least and I genuinely hope no well intended young man has to go through what I did. However, I've also heard of tons of stories or first hand witnessed some absolutely abysmal behavior from women towards other men. There are a couple cases I can cite where women were openly admitting to leading men on that they had no interest in. One mentioned that she'd go on dates with men, often from OLD but in real life approaches as well, basically just to get free stuff or because she was bored and wanted something to do. Another one mentioned she'd do this to get free dinner and drinks. These women will eventually get what is coming to them and I hope they grow to be old and miserable cat women.
 
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@Jesse Pinkman

What you are mentioning has honestly been going on for quite a while now, it's been a growing trend over the past 10 years. There are a lot of stats showing sexlessness amongst young men has been becoming more and more prevalent, ironically starting around 2008 when the recession hit. I personally feel that what started it was not just the recession, but at that time social media and the internet were far more advanced and widely used compared to the previous major recession of the "dot com bubble" that was in the early 2000s. Basically you have a bunch of men that feel disengaged from society and the internet and video games can become a coping mechanism. However, that's not really when we see these issues take off.

There are trends that showed around 2014/2015 is when we begin to see male sexlessness become a huge problem, ironically correlating with the widespread use of dating apps, such as tinder. When even fat and unattractive land whales feel entitled to some dude with bulging biceps you know we have a problem. Anecdotal evidence, but I've heard many men discuss how they felt the game changed around this time period, real life interactions and not posts on the internet.

What ends up happening is you now have a bunch of men that become burnt out by the dating climate for what it is and they just focus on other things in life. When you are getting nothing but rejection or just overall poor experiences, it would be totally logical to step away. These men didn't read some red pill or black pill posts or look up terms like "MGTOW", they literally just gave up due to frustration. The issue is this spiral makes it worse, at it creates even pickier and more insane women which leads to even more men giving up and checking out. I see the current dating market as a hyper competitive game of musical chairs, where you have a drove of men vying for a tiny number of available seats that are actually desirable, with the rest being undateable garbage.

I can understand all of this because I'm one of these men. In my early 30s I have a much stronger understanding of this compared to someone quite a bit younger. I've personally had nothing but bad experiences, in fact quite a few of them were extreme to say the least and I genuinely hope no well intended young man has to go through what I did. However, I've also heard of tons of stories or first hand witnessed some absolutely abysmal behavior from women towards other men. There are a couple cases I can cite where women were openly admitting to leading men on that they had no interest in. One mentioned that she'd go on dates with men, often from OLD but in real life approaches as well, basically just to get free stuff or because she was bored and wanted something to do. Another one mentioned she'd do this to get free dinner and drinks. These women will eventually get what is coming to them and I hope they grow to be old and miserable cat women.
in poorer countries if you are at the button of the barrel then you have the same results as in the west

why would an ugly dude with a sh1t salary should reproduce?

natures way is to evolve , not to stagnate or even worse degrade
 

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in poorer countries if you are at the button of the barrel then you have the same results as in the west

why would an ugly dude with a sh1t salary should reproduce?

natures way is to evolve , not to stagnate or even worse degrade
That's not really the point of what I was getting at with my post. When men do not do well financially, this happens to everyone at some point, it's quite common for them to disengage from society and get a bit depressed. Disregarding finances, many men may become depressed about many things in life, that could be from poor dating experiences or just feeling like you are in some pointless grind where you'll never get ahead.....which is the reality for literally millions of young men. That's why things like video games, drugs, alcohol are so popular.....these things provide an escape from the harsh realities of life. It doesn't help when women, who are just as messed up, are going around telling men they aren't good enough and deeming 80% of men as "unattractive".
 

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That's not really the point of what I was getting at with my post. When men do not do well financially, this happens to everyone at some point, it's quite common for them to disengage from society and get a bit depressed. Disregarding finances, many men may become depressed about many things in life, that could be from poor dating experiences or just feeling like you are in some pointless grind where you'll never get ahead.....which is the reality for literally millions of young men. That's why things like video games, drugs, alcohol are so popular.....these things provide an escape from the harsh realities of life. It doesn't help when women, who are just as messed up, are going around telling men they aren't good enough and deeming 80% of men as "unattractive".
ye , but in the same time this 80% men have a choice . Either to improve , either to do drugs or whatever

things are never fixed , but in a continuous change

the problem is that men have an entitled mindset , wanting without putting the effort , and when they do not get what they expect they disengage

it does not work like that unfortunately . To be good in something you have to put a lot of effort in that thing ( career , body , hobby’s , women , etc )
 

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From Now till 2030

We are currently dealing with unprecedented global crises.
Covid-19, war (ukraine vs Russia which is affecting the whole global markets), shaky stock and crypto market, food shortage, a 2023 famine, and more

Let's not forget that women's standards due to social media (particularly Instagram) has made them pickier and narcissistic. The dating game is brutal especially for regular guys

10 years ago all you needed was to look decent, solid game, and you were good

Now if you wanna date upper echelon women you need looks, status, game and money or two of the four if not you will be dating average or below average women (depending on what you find attractive) covid19 basically killed nightlife or what's left of it. The number of sexless men has tripled in 10 years


This is why you see so much frustration with incels and red pillers most guys are not getting laid or not as much as they like.

By 2030 the "Chad's" will be guys who have a warm plate of food. I have a friend who works in the food supply industry and the shortage is a of worse than people think. The real effects won't hit until winter this year and could last up to a decade. Let that sink in, but isn't odd to you that all these food plants have been on fire? and cows randomly dying? So yeah if you have food you will get the hottest chick but good luck finding food unless you're a farmer or have stocked up

The rise of lonely men will continue but I do see a resurgence of the church and God. When there is despair God always shows up. The question is will modern people humble themselves to give their lives to the Lord?

Let me also add:
I think this generation of men is soft,they rather meet women through swiping apps don't approach. I'm an old man now I guess but I remember there was time you earned your stripes in the field. Now everyone is swiping. If I was 25 years old and not working 12 hours a day I would kill it in the field there so many women in groups just bored and wanting to talk to someone. Last time I went out to a fashion event I had 3 different women vyying for my attention and I'm far from Tyrone or Chad
 
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I think there's going to be a major counter action happening due to all the guys not having mates. You can't expect men to live lonely lives with no women and just chug along happy....
What do you think will happen? an exodus of dating?
I agree I think there will be a big counter action and a lot of women are gonna have to straighten up this economic crises and worse then people think
 

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Shocked and flattered. But I’m not really a ‘big gun’. Plenty of guys on here game-mog me to Jupiter & back. However, I’ll try & collect my thoughts put my 2€ in.
 

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What do you think will happen? an exodus of dating?
I agree I think there will be a big counter action and a lot of women are gonna have to straighten up this economic crises and worse then people think
I'm not sure.... Just can't see how men not having their needs met on a mass scale wouldn't have a reaction. If guys go mgtow, then what do they focus on now, instead of getting pusssy? They'll focus on government, morality, religion, corruption etc. They are already pisssed and frustrated with opting out, so they'll turn that energy towards where they land on those other issues.
 

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I'm not sure.... Just can't see how men not having their needs met on a mass scale wouldn't have a reaction. If guys go mgtow, then what do they focus on now, instead of getting pusssy? They'll focus on government, morality, religion, corruption etc. They are already pisssed and frustrated with opting out, so they'll turn that energy towards where they land on those other issues.
and have the same results as they have with women

look at all this leftist movement, hating the big corporations and the wealthy men

they hate them because they want what they have for themselves , not because those guys are evil

being envious is a female trait , not a manly one
 

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ye , but in the same time this 80% men have a choice . Either to improve , either to do drugs or whatever

things are never fixed , but in a continuous change

the problem is that men have an entitled mindset , wanting without putting the effort , and when they do not get what they expect they disengage

it does not work like that unfortunately . To be good in something you have to put a lot of effort in that thing ( career , body , hobby’s , women , etc )
That’s usually true, but the top men are trying to devolve all other men - as part of the inter-male competition wars.

The main goal of the Top Men is to turn you into an ineffective BluePill. This is a devolution on a massive scale.

So all the encouragements to destroy your life and your masculinity are put in your face everyday by the Top Men who run society.

Average Men today are far, far dumber than he was in the past. Part of this purposeful devolution agenda. Eventually they want us to be mental farm animals. And we are almost at the level already.
 

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I think this generation of men is soft,they rather meet women through swiping apps don't approach. I'm an old man now I guess but I remember there was time you earned your stripes in the field. Now everyone is swiping. If I was 25 years old and not working 12 hours a day I would kill it in the field there so many women in groups just bored and wanting to talk to someone. Last time I went out to a fashion event I had 3 different women vyying for my attention and I'm far from Tyrone or Chad
Millennials and Gen Z definitely don't have the patience to grind it out on the streets with cold approach. There is a lot of wasted effort in night game, with many nights out at the bar resulting in some level of intoxication and no poontang. Non-bar approaching is also a rather unpleasant experience. Most women in non-bar venues are not receptive to being approached. Millennials haven't wanted to deal with that shiit. Millennials would rather have the illusion of efficiency and effectiveness of swiping and texting while sitting at home in their underwear.
 

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However, I do start to wonder where "game" itself is heading in the coming years.

My verdict?

I think that young men growing up today and men in general have every reason and every avenue to be negative, pessimistic, bitter, and upset. There is so much out there (black pill, incel groups, MGTOW etc.) to offer young men a community where they can collectively complain and find comfort in that. I feel like with so many Pickup guys getting cancelled and most major Pickup programs largely gone, men do not have the same direction they would have had back in the day when the vibe was more positive.

IMO, a lot of guys are going to voluntarily take themselves out of the game. I think men have way too many comfortable avenues to even bother with putting int the effort to learn game and invest in a lot of self-improvement.
I personally think Sosuave will be filled with much more trolls than it has now.

Trolls such as the OP.
 

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I personally think Sosuave will be filled with much more trolls than it has now.

Trolls such as the OP.
unfortunately public spaces are full with trolls

women are not more different than they were 2k years ago , the only difference is that most men were dying in wars so everyone took for granted that women are in a particular way

but as an idea , nature is all about evolving .

also , if powerful men are seeking goof looking women to reproduce , it kinda means that being good looking is a pre - selection and that is why good looking dudes are picked first for mating
 
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