Serenity
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Heard about swingers? They have an emotional commitment and stick together, but they fuck other people. That community really cares about nobody getting hurt by it. Marriage is more than sex, a lot more I'd say.
Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
Thinking about open relationship with ex
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I got approached by swingers 2 weeks ago. It was disturbing. The man's hair had turned gray before his time. He was dejected like I've never seen. His woman was super hot, even in her 40's. She forced him to tell me that I could f*ck her if I wanted to. I could see it broke his heart. I couldn't do it.
My last girl had an "open marriage" and was divorced within a year.
Serenity
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mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
She was obviously getting off on torturing the guy. For some of them, that's even greater than the sex.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
devilkingx2
Master Don Juan
it sounds like she either doesn't think you'll seriously be fvcking other women, or that she thinks she'll convince you to close it later if your feelings get stronger. or on the other side, that she has like 3 FWBs on the side already.
tread carefully. the last thing you want is huge amounts of drama and hurt feelings, maybe start off with threesomes or by not giving too much details about the other girls you're banging, ease her into the idea so things don't blow up
tread carefully. the last thing you want is huge amounts of drama and hurt feelings, maybe start off with threesomes or by not giving too much details about the other girls you're banging, ease her into the idea so things don't blow up
Bingo-Player
Master Don Juan
i never thought i would say it but im half considering something similar with mine
she's killed most of the emotions i felt for her with her sh1tty morals, but im still physically attracted to her
she sent me video of her fingering herself last night begging me to meet her for sex - i didnt but she's offered to pay for a hotel for us next weekend just for me to fvck her
i think we need to be fully aware that an "open relationship" with an EX is never going to end well especially if you start feeling for her again
BUT - if you are certain you will never have those feelings for her again due to her actions
i really cant see a problem with using an EX for sex
i know there are guys on the forum that believe you should only be sleeping with women whom are virgins or as good as virgins
the reality is we are in a state of extreme social decay women are wild and lawless
they no longer care for traditional values of marriage children and staying loyal to one man
dating market is treacherous for men and i find myself in a scenario where i could be going 1/2/3/4/5 potentially 6 months without sex whilst i rebuild my plate rotation
do i like it ? fvck no i think its disgusting
but ultimatley i am a 25 year old male , i have sexual needs and its a case of eat or die
i think im going to fvck mine and see how i feel after it
il know after that whether the arrangement with her will be sustainable
she's killed most of the emotions i felt for her with her sh1tty morals, but im still physically attracted to her
she sent me video of her fingering herself last night begging me to meet her for sex - i didnt but she's offered to pay for a hotel for us next weekend just for me to fvck her
i think we need to be fully aware that an "open relationship" with an EX is never going to end well especially if you start feeling for her again
BUT - if you are certain you will never have those feelings for her again due to her actions
i really cant see a problem with using an EX for sex
i know there are guys on the forum that believe you should only be sleeping with women whom are virgins or as good as virgins
the reality is we are in a state of extreme social decay women are wild and lawless
they no longer care for traditional values of marriage children and staying loyal to one man
dating market is treacherous for men and i find myself in a scenario where i could be going 1/2/3/4/5 potentially 6 months without sex whilst i rebuild my plate rotation
do i like it ? fvck no i think its disgusting
but ultimatley i am a 25 year old male , i have sexual needs and its a case of eat or die
i think im going to fvck mine and see how i feel after it
il know after that whether the arrangement with her will be sustainable
TheMonkeyKing
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Exactly this. No such thing as an 'open' relationship. You're either in a relationship or you're not. Otherwise what's the point.
Whatever the 'agreement', I'm pretty such this kind of thing usually gets complicated pretty quickly. She'll cop more and more feels for you and probably get ultra-clingy with it.
By all means bang her and hang out, but avoid putting labels on these things. What do you need relationship label for? You're only going to give her false hope. It's not good karma to lead people on.
With girls who are in love with you, the easiest thing is to be brutally honest about your intentions. Most of the time, they just accept and they'd rather have a part share in a strong guy than exclusive access to a weakling.
sazc
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Imo....
You seem to think you can handle the relationship if it becomes an open one. I get the feeling that you have never done this before, but you are open to the idea. Therefore I propose that you go in, eyes wide open, tuned into how you are feeling, and try it.
Everything in life had the potential to be a learning experience. Since you are so cognitively aware of the entire situation (i.e. in healthy contemplation of what could go right, and what could go wrong) if you don't mind risking the relationship that you have with her, i say give it a try for the experience.
You may love it, it may be a great fit for you, or you may hate it. But you won't know, the curiosity won't be satisfied, too you give it a shot.
The one issue is that you have to be sure she isn't doing this to try and get back in as a significant other. Are her motives pure? If not, that could complicates things
Good luck
You seem to think you can handle the relationship if it becomes an open one. I get the feeling that you have never done this before, but you are open to the idea. Therefore I propose that you go in, eyes wide open, tuned into how you are feeling, and try it.
Everything in life had the potential to be a learning experience. Since you are so cognitively aware of the entire situation (i.e. in healthy contemplation of what could go right, and what could go wrong) if you don't mind risking the relationship that you have with her, i say give it a try for the experience.
You may love it, it may be a great fit for you, or you may hate it. But you won't know, the curiosity won't be satisfied, too you give it a shot.
The one issue is that you have to be sure she isn't doing this to try and get back in as a significant other. Are her motives pure? If not, that could complicates things
Good luck