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You know two girls?!? You base your entire analysis of 10 million hot girls in the USA based upon two girls, only 1 of whom is hot? How far up your ass is your head if you can't figure out how dumb your claim is?



The 'average hot girl?' You only mention 1 hot girl, and it's not even clear if you've met her! How can you claim knowledge of the average of a population of millions when you can't confirm that you've even met 1 hot girl?
Onlyfans, Twitch, Tinder, Pornhub and Seeking Arrangments say otherwise. Please look up the stats on these sites before arguing. Most hot young women have monetized their sexuality atleast once. Even the good ones.

MANY girls I know personally have done this. I just used two examples. I can list plenty more from my PERSONAL life. But again you want to use the " not all women are like that argument". I didnt say all. I said many.

Since you want to argue please tell me your vast experiences with all the hot college aged chicks you pull. I am curious. I am sure you are killing it out here. Please enlighten a loser like me. Since I'm obviously making all of this out of thin air.
 

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Their brain has a lot of split second lies it will tell itself to validate it's reality.
Life always laughs at them in the end though. You can tell yourself all the lies you want but life laughs at you eventually. Then all that’s left is you and your lies you told yourself.
 

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Is this guy serious? Lol.
God forbid we find common ground and stay constructive, right?

I'm afraid that he is. Meet Mr. Knight in Shining Armor, the honorary president of the orbiters' club.
LOL you obviously haven't read my post history. Even a mod told you to cut the shiit because you're derailing the thread, get real.

I know it's hard to believe there are good women, but that belief is the first step to actually finding them.
 

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C'mon guys... Leave the old lady alone.

Keep the thread on-topic, or further off-topic posts will be deleted and thread will be ultimately locked.


Regarding OP, it has also been my experience that girls who hold onto a lot of shame, and of whom subsequently struggle to love themselves, also struggle to accept love from others.

These girls will eventually resent a man's attempts to give them that love & respect, and you will lose value in her eyes... "Why would he love someone like ME? There has to be something wrong with him! Does he have no other options?". Which is also why these girls like and are drawn to guys who treat them like sh!t and degrade them, because they assign low value to themselves and are subsequently held to that standard by men are willing to treat them as such. Like attracts like.

If you want a healthy LTR, avoid these women.
Exactly! This is a more eloquent way of saying what I was trying to convey.

Most attractive women feel like they are "settling" if you like them too much. Women have literally told me this from thier very own mouths.

Many of the young women ( college aged) have not even been on a real date. In my early 30s I dated college aged women. They are used to getting pumped and dumped ( hook up culture). The alphas they smash dont take them out that much. So here you come playing mr. Lover boy and they freak out. They know deep down that they dont deserve this treatment.
 

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Her reality in her mind. And you can alter your reality. You can move cross country or out of the country and talk to different folks. You can change your career or the direction of your life. So your reality and the parameters of your life change. Some of you are incredibly solid and powerful PESSIMISTS. And you create and maintain a reality that allows your excuses and limitations to be true.
I'm a multimillionaire.

That doesn't mean I have to think her sh1t doesn't stink just because she wants us all to.
 

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God forbid we find common ground and stay constructive, right?


LOL you obviously haven't read my post history. Even a mod told you to cut the shiit because you're derailing the thread, get real.

I know it's hard to believe there are good women, but that belief is the first step to actually finding them.
Sure. But that doesn't mean I can't disagree with her and think she ain't sh1t if I want to.

I find her insultingly narcissistic and pretentious and I'm tired of that cr@p. It's no different from any other little teeny bopper girl. She thinks she's amazing just cause she exists.
 

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Sure. But that doesn't mean I can't disagree with her and think she ain't sh1t if I want to.

I find her insultingly narcissistic and pretentious and I'm tired of that cr@p. It's no different from any other little teeny bopper girl. She thinks she's amazing just cause she exists.
I'm sensing anger or frustration, which is a reaction to a threat. What do you feel threatened by? What has BE specifically said (perhaps in the context of this thread) that has you so worked up?

If I don't find her insulting or pretentious and can draw value from her posts, wouldn't that mean I'm in a more flexible and advantageous headspace than you?

If a man is fulfilled in life working on his passions, he's generally happier, less sensitive, and harder to upset.
If a man is stagnating, receding, or is otherwise frustrated with life, he's generally easier to upset and more sensitive.

I know it may be hard to hear, but it's more likely that you're unhappy in other aspects of your life and are perhaps more sensitive to opinions that don't immediately line up with yours or support your current lifestyle. Otherwise we would be able to at least write up a decent case against any perceived slights and reach a consensus about exactly what BE said that is mean, pretentious, etc.

In this thread BE has written about her life success and accomplishments to clear any misunderstandings when accused of being broken, and seems proud of her family. Personally I see nothing wrong with that. She hasn't let anything said here upset her as far as I can tell, which is again admirable. Does her success feel like a threat? I'm trying to pin down something that could be perceived as pretentious or insulting. Personally I say good for her, the SS community benefits from people that are living healthy fulfilling lives.

It's not BE that upsets you, or anything else in the world, it's your interpretation. If your conclusions weren't subject to your perspective, then you and I would have the same complaints, or you could easily show me what exactly was said that's insulting. Because I haven't been shown anything of substance to back up these claims and because we can have differing perspectives regarding the same event/thing, the onus is on you to show emotional responsibility, and not let yourself get upset by something out of your control.
 

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The average hot girl is a prostitute. Do you know how many women are on OnlyFans and Seeking arrangements? The sexual partner count of the regular women today rivals the prostitutes of the past. This is a fact.
The average hot girl is a prostitute? You sure about that?What percentage of hot women do you think are on only fans?And I don’t know what you’ve been smoking if you think women today have higher body counts than prostitutes did at a time when it was a more common and less looked down upon phenomenon.
No offense intended but I dont think you have lived among college aged women lately. You would be shocked.
I am literally in college bud.I know what is on ground.
Again I'm not saying that she is an exact model of a regular girl. I am saying that the same self loathing we see in her is present in the average hot chick. This is why you cant love them more than they love themselves.
Don’t think in absolutes man. You are literally saying that the psychological headspace of a seasoned prostitute is the same as any regular girl.Patently untrue.The fact that she’s a prostitute alone suggests there’s an array of pre existing and underlying mental variables we are unaware of.This is not rocket science.Even in college, and I am at one of the more renowned party schools,there is a clear distinction between the more promiscuous,”easy” girls and the more reserved ones.The slvts and the “saints.”
 

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The average hot girl is a prostitute? You sure about that?What percentage of hot women do you think are on only fans?And I don’t know what you’ve been smoking if you think women today have higher body counts than prostitutes did at a time when it was a more common and less looked down upon phenomenon.

I am literally in college bud.I know what is on ground.

Don’t think in absolutes man. You are literally saying that the psychological headspace of a seasoned prostitute is the same as any regular girl.Patently untrue.The fact that she’s a prostitute alone suggests there’s an array of pre existing and underlying mental variables we are unaware of.This is not rocket science.Even in college, and I am at one of the more renowned party schools,there is a clear distinction between the more promiscuous,”easy” girls and the more reserved ones.The slvts and the “saints.”
My guy I repeatedly said that the headspace is not the same but it differs in matters of degree. The fundamental model is the same. The model of " if he likes me then I am settling" is the same.
Again, hot girls and hookers have a lot more in common than you think.

And yes the average hot girl is a prostitute. If you trade your sexuality for cash then you are prostitute. A lot more hot girls than you think monetize their youth and beauty.

Since you are in college ask one of the star football players how many girls see him as a dollar sign. Ask them how many groupies they get just based off the fact that they could go to the NFL one day. Again I will repeat, the 8.5/10, 9/10s are generally speaking prostitutes. Not ALL...but many.

As far as stats of how many girls are on some form of prostitute website: its a lot more than you think. You are still young and naive bro no offense. I been seen this stuff.
 
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The average hot girl is a prostitute? You sure about that?What percentage of hot women do you think are on only fans?And I don’t know what you’ve been smoking if you think women today have higher body counts than prostitutes did at a time when it was a more common and less looked down upon phenomenon.

I am literally in college bud.I know what is on ground.

Don’t think in absolutes man. You are literally saying that the psychological headspace of a seasoned prostitute is the same as any regular girl.Patently untrue.The fact that she’s a prostitute alone suggests there’s an array of pre existing and underlying mental variables we are unaware of.This is not rocket science.Even in college, and I am at one of the more renowned party schools,there is a clear distinction between the more promiscuous,”easy” girls and the more reserved ones.The slvts and the “saints.”

I could post even more credible studies on this but I am using my phone and its too much effort. This does not even count all the giris offline who smash professors for grades, all the girls dating older guys etc.

You have no idea what is really going on the ground level. 30% of college guys are not even having sex. Who do you think all the really hot girls are smashing? You think an 8.5/10 college chick is gonna only smash college dudes and never once monetize her beauty? Stop it man. Ive lived in college housing in my late 20s and when I was 30 yrs old. Many of the chicks were smashing for cash. I knew these girls. They had sugar daddies. Its popular.
 

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Since you are in college ask one of the star football players how many girls see him as a dollar sign. Ask them how many groupies they get just based off the fact that they could go to the NFL one day. Again I will repeat, the 8.5/10, 9/10s are generally speaking prostitutes. Not ALL...but many.
I AM one of the star football players lol.
The model of " if he likes me then I am settling" is the same.
Again, hot girls and hookers have a lot more in common that you think.
The latter statement has some merit to it in that these are the party years.The former is you just selling yourself short.

As far as stats of how many girls are on some form of prostitute website: its a lot more than you think. You are still young and naive bro no offense. I been seen this stuff.
One could also argue that you’re the 36 year old trying to tell the 23 year old in college what modern college women are like
 

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I could post even more credible studies on this but I am using my phone and its too much effort. This does not even count all the giris offline who smash professors for grades, all the girls dating older guys etc.

You have no idea what is really going on the ground level. 30% of college guys are not even having sex. Who do you think all the really hot girls are smashing? You think an 8.5/10 college chick is gonna only smash college dudes and never once monetize her beauty? Stop it man. Ive lived in college housing in my late 20s and when I was 30 yrs old. Many of the chicks were smashing for cash. I knew these girls. They had sugar daddies. Its popular.

I could post even more credible studies on this but I am using my phone and its too much effort. This does not even count all the giris offline who smash professors for grades, all the girls dating older guys etc.

You have no idea what is really going on the ground level. 30% of college guys are not even having sex. Who do you think all the really hot girls are smashing? You think an 8.5/10 college chick is gonna only smash college dudes and never once monetize her beauty? Stop it man. Ive lived in college housing in my late 20s and when I was 30 yrs old. Many of the chicks were smashing for cash. I knew these girls. They had sugar daddies. Its popular.
Nothing these girls do can surprise me.But when all is said and done,comparing them to prostitutes is extreme.They are college girls.What do you expect from them?
 

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Onlyfans, Twitch, Tinder, Pornhub and Seeking Arrangments say otherwise. Please look up the stats on these sites before arguing. Most hot young women have monetized their sexuality atleast once. Even the good ones.

MANY girls I know personally have done this. I just used two examples. I can list plenty more from my PERSONAL life. But again you want to use the " not all women are like that argument". I didnt say all. I said many.

Since you want to argue please tell me your vast experiences with all the hot college aged chicks you pull. I am curious. I am sure you are killing it out here. Please enlighten a loser like me. Since I'm obviously making all of this out of thin air.
You can't define "many" lol.

Onlyfans has 1 million content creators. There are 8 billion people on the planet, half women, 1 billion alone in the 20-40 age range. 200 million are "hot." Do the math.
 

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My dear, you come from a better generation than the modern females. Let me prove my point.

1.) Most girls have self esteem issues. This is a fact. Very few attractive women have healthy self esteems when they are young.

2.) Most hot chicks have partner counts of 30 plus men easy. Do you understand what this does to a females self esteem? It tanks it even lower. Many of the girls have been alpha widowed, spit on, gagged, spanked etc.

3.) So here you come trying to be Mr.Nice guy to a person who doesnt feel worthy of it you will fail.

Please address these points.
These are true points. The hook up culture is alive and well in my age group too however. The solution is character.

Point 1.) I’d suggest that relatively few hot women of any age have healthy self esteem. The ones who are emotionally healthy are always sought after and always have choices if they are not already partnered. They typically do not date or have sex just to have sex. They wait until someone they truly have interest in comes along. They are happy alone and are patient. And if they aren’t particularly socially inclined they may not go out much. They are busy with life (and usually have a partner).

My phone is dying. I’ll try to find a cube to charge and respond to your other points.

Suffice to say as a mother of two teen daughters the current culture of hyper sexuality is scary. It must be approached directly.

The answers lie in developing solid character in the face of the current culture as well as providing a loving home environment.

Be back in a bit.
 

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The girl I liked since I was 5 broke my heart.Long story lol.
Lets stick to the basic premise of the original post.

The mentality of " I will never be a part of any club that would have me" is how many of the hot girls operate.

If you disagree then you have not dated enough pretty women. One day soon you will see what I mean once you get older and more experienced.
 

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