"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
These SIGNS don't mean anything, do they?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Docs
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I think for the benefit of each person here, the whole DJ thing should be JUST ABOUT getting your life together and making yourself a better person.Docs said:Haha......reality sucks eh?
No ANALYSIS of what women do should be given.
I blew it so many times because I looked at what she did and tried to think what it means.
Maybe some girls follow these trends, but I think most of the time its just a random thing. Its not a sign of anything at all.
How many times have you "blew it"? And what does "blew it" mean? You are confusing WHY a women does something instead of just looking at WHAT she did - big difference.Babnik said:I think for the benefit of each person here, the whole DJ thing should be JUST ABOUT getting your life together and making yourself a better person.
No ANALYSIS of what women do should be given.
I blew it so many times because I looked at what she did and tried to think what it means.
Maybe some girls follow these trends, but I think most of the time its just a random thing. Its not a sign of anything at all.
Where did you read that the entire basis for a women's interest level is their body language?
It sounds to me like you are using some black and white thinking there.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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anyways, women are not consistent with their body language, imho.
What happens from this is when you go out, you try to figure out every little thing about what she, you, surrounding, etc means. Your braind puts too much time into calculating the hundreds of little things going on, that you essentially can destroy your own chances with the girl.
I used to be guilty of doing this. I'll listen to the first word of her sentence and start running the index in my head of what to say next. Its counter productive... chill out, talk casually, keep a few basic stories/games to have fun with. Memorizing every opener/seduction/kino/C&F gambit isn't what this tries to teach. Its about taking some of the ideas and being them naturally. If it doesn't naturally occur, then you need to stay off the site a while.