"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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There is no way in HELL that "divorce rate" is only 50%

Kailex

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Rescue Mission said:
I am willing to bet that it is not 50% of "all" marriages end in divorce, I think it is more like 100% of MODERN marriages end in divorce.
100%?
Really?

That's way too much of an absolute for me.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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zekko

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So why did you get divorced after 10 years? Was it the marriage deteriorating year after year or did it suddenly get bad?
I wasn't married for 10 years. The relationship was 10 years, we were married for six. The last year was pure hell. Up until then it was fine. Basically we weren't getting along, we were arguing all the time. Irreconcileable differences I guess you'd call it.

Somewhere around the five year point she seemed to change. I actually think she went a little crazy (there were others who agreed with me). She suddenly became very controlling, making unreasonable demands about who I could talk to and what I could or couldn't do. Being a man of self respect, I did not give in to these demands because I considered them unfair. Which only made her more hysterical. Reasoning with her did no good.

We began to argue constantly. She yelled at me, and if I yelled back then of course I was "being abusive". I was willing to compromise and take my share of the blame. But from her point of view, she was responsible for nothing. Everything was 100% my fault, and she was a blameless victim. That's what really frustrated me.

So when she left, it was a great relief. I had already gone through all the grief and pain. Had I been on SoSuave at the time, I would have known it was pointless to argue with a woman. But even if I hadn't given in to arguing with her, I don't think it would have helped, because I was just so frustrated with her behavior.

I'm still not entirely sure what happened to cause the change. I suppose that part of her had been there all along, hidden, but I never say it coming. Maybe she had a breakdown of some sort. Going into the marriage I was totally sure I had found the right one. But I guess you never really know.
 

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zekko...for what it's worth, I'm sorry for what you went through. But glad you landed on your feet. Good job. That stuff hurts, and sometimes it can be really hard to recover.
 

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Espi said:
5string said:
she got half of everything despite the fact that she made about 1/4 what I did. Ouch! A very raw deal.
Ouch indeed!

AND, she got to collect more money from the job that she surely maintained after she divorced you.

That's why SMART women get married...often! For most women, a marriage represents financial security, and a divorce represents even MORE financial security because it's going to be the biggest financial windfall of her entire life!
Actually, she got laid off of her job a few weeks after the divorce was final. It did hurt like I said. Lost half of everything despite raising her 2 kids and putting them through college. I was an awesome stepdad.
 

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5string said:
Espi said:
5string said:
she got half of everything despite the fact that she made about 1/4 what I did. Ouch! A very raw deal. Actually, she got laid off of her job a few weeks after the divorce was final. It did hurt like I said. Lost half of everything despite raising her 2 kids and putting them through college. I was an awesome stepdad.
Curious... Do the kids keep in contact with you? I wonder what their take was on the situation.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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