Theater Massacre in Aurora, Colorado [Merged Threads]

[Burroughs]

Is Batman Massacre Staged Terror?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NDRdD1yDiR0#!

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Sure it was staged. It was staged by some nutjob fanboy who thought he was the joker and had seen this movie too many times.

 

[user43770]

OK Wyatt Earp.

Ahh, stereotypes... I'm no hero, I'm a realist. I don't understand how anybody could be against the right to defend themself. Then again, I imagine you're probably safe over in New Zealand where I'm assuming you raise sheep.

 

[Burroughs]

If you study history, you will find that Rome was no different at all just prior to it’s fall. The games served the Emperor’s purpose well for many years: they quenched the people’s thirst for blood and violence and “Bread and circuses” were the watchwords of the day.
The American Empire is now in the same state of decline as Rome was around 460 AD or so- the end results will be MUCH worse this time around.
The higher the level of technological advance, the faster and harder the fall when it comes.

 

[Zunder]

Because freedom to defend oneself is pathetic.

This message was brought to you by subjects of the Queen of England.

It's what you 'defend' yourself with that is the problem.

The old codgers whom wrote the statue "right to bear arms" obviously had no intention, nor could they have forseen that it would enable anyone to purchase modern military style weapons capable of killing a large amount of people very quickly.

I mean - just use your brain mate. Taking your ideloogy to its zenith - one should obviously then be able to build themselves a nuclear warhead in their suburban backyard - why not? Handgun, Automatic Weapon, Bazooka...Nuclear Bomb. Why not? It's your God Given American right to defend yourselfves - absoultely. So, defend yourselves with the most powerful weapon on earth then - you have a "Right" to do so.

Now - do you see how silly, and how out of context the statue "right to bear arms" has been taken over all the years since it was introduced?

 

[perseverance]

What I'd love to know is quite how a man managed to carry a rifle into a busy area like a cinema without being spotted? It's scary to be honest.

 

[Shockwavedave]

Yes, the ability to protect yourself is quite pathetic. I hope you never find yourself face to face with a violent criminal. Some people obtain peace of mind by assuming violence will never find them; I carry a firearm. To each their own, I suppose.

That people feel the need, or they have to, to defend themselves with a weapon which is designed to kill is what i find pathetic.

Also pathetic is the ease at which guns are available to people whom shouldn't be allowed near one

 

[Burroughs]

Part of the blame for the Colorado massacre is on liberals and “politically correct” policies as embraced by the theatre company of a “gun free zone” (how’s that working for ya?) that resulted in nobody having a firearm with them except, of course, for the criminal. As is so typical, the shooter offered zero resistance once other people with weapons came on the scene. The loss of lives is always potentiated by a lack of firearms when defending against those who have them.

To all the folks afraid of or just don't want to own guns....well don't... no one forced you to....but why do you feel the need to impose your 'values' on others...america was founded on gun ownership.... IT WOULDN'T EXIST WITHOUT GUN OWNERSHIP...so by all means liberal faggots don't own a gun, no one is asking you to...but don't impose your faggotry and fear based emotions on others....

..and if you feel there are too many guns in america...by all means feel free to leave...you can try Spain or Greece perhaps.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

So what are you saying, the batman nutjob was engineered by the government to entertain the people in order to take our minds off the impending collapse?

Wouldn't it have been easier to declare a "free beer day" or something?

All societies collapse at one point or another. I don't think batman's got anything to do with it...

 

[speed dawg]

The government will have to pry my guns from my cold dead hands. That's exactly why the 2nd Amendment exists.....to keep the government in their place.

 

[speed dawg]

I'm sorry my feminized fvcked up generation did this to you younger guys. I really am.

My dad told me the exact same thing yesterday.

 

[backseatjuan]

Colorado University Had Identical Drill On Same Day As ‘Batman’ Massacre

A Colorado university just 16 miles away from the site of Friday morning’s deadly ‘Batman’ massacre staged an identical exercise the very same day in which students were trained how to react to a gunman firing at people in a movie theater.

“Rocky Vista University College of Osteopathic Medicine is in the middle of holding specialized classes in disaster life support for 150 second-year medical students. Along with response to natural disasters like hurricanes and floods and terrorist attacks, one of the scenarios being used to train the students is how to respond if a shooter fires at people in a movie theater and also uses a bomb in the attack,” reports the Denver Post.

The added detail of a bomb being used in the drill makes the similarity with the shooting even more creepy given the fact that gunman James Holmes used a smoke bomb during his deadly assault.

The drill was part of an Advanced Disaster Life Support Training exercise which involves emergency specialist physicians. The shootings in Aurora were actually incorporated into the training at the University which took place just hours after the massacre.

“The irony is amazing, just amazing,” said Rocky Vista Dean Dr. Bruce Dubin.

The school drill was just one of a number of strange coincidences that eerily paralleled the tragic massacre druing which 12 people were killed dozens more injured.

quoted from http://www.infowars.com/eerie-coinc...entical-drill-on-same-day-as-batman-massacre/



FACT: During 9/11 there were government drills similar to what happened.

FACT: During 7/7 (London) there were government drills similar to what happened.



So was it a government staged terror? Government does want to shut the 2nd amendement, and that's what exactly got attacked at that movie theater. I'm going to call it a yes, a less aware person might call it a no. What you going to call it is entirely up to you.

 

[Quiksilver]

Here is a fairly good debate regarding citizen ownership of firearms:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAC2drbnfCg



Tongue in cheek, its a debate between a woman who is enthusiastically Anti-gun and man who is enthusiastically pro-gun.

The Anti-gun woman isn't completely anti-gun. She believes that eventually the U.N. should have a monopoly on the use of force worldwide; that only the UN should have guns.

The Pro-gun guy believes all citizens worldwide should be able to choose whether to arm themselves for self-defense/civil defense.



Its a 1.5 hour debate and it will probably get removed from YouTube soon.


I think its a fair representation of the motives and beliefs of both sides of the issue.

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I don't care to debate on gun control anymore.

I firmly believe in thinking for the long-term and individual freedoms.

I would also never tell another sovereign law-abiding citizen what they could or could not own or possess. Likewise I would never appeal to force (government legislation) to force the compliance of those law-abiding citizens to my will.

Its just not who I am. I don't like exercising power over other good people, for whatever reason.

Ask yourself whether you are the same or different, would you or wouldn't you?

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Just remember, all authoritative folks the world over and through history--whether good or evil--always profess to know whats best for the people they are using force against.

 

[Jaylan]

Its interesting the fact that almost the majority of this spree killers are white men aged 16-40 with a high IQ and competence on a certain field.

Even more interesting is that probably most of us here belong to this group of people.

The only explanation I can provide is that this group is the less likely to be able to vent while at the same time the one who has more pressure on it.
You cannot fire a woman or a minority with no conseguences while nobody is gonna give a fvck about an adult white straight guy at least in the tribunal.

Also the hostility of women and the state toward this group is probably playing a big role, dont get me wrong I can imagine plenty of black guys live in poverty or in a violent neightbourhood yet they are not subjected to the strong psychological pressure from society and women.

However I still dont get why those guys kills random people instead of using that anger for their advantage like robbing a bank or kill those who pissed them off,it makes no sense.

You cannot be serious? Any black man on this forum, let alone any minority can tell you that statement is very wrong. We deal with psychological BS all the time, especially from our women let alone women in general. But the more determined black men seek to keep strong because as a black man in America...better yet, as a black man in any Western country...you want to prove all the negative things people depict you as to be wrong.

Btw, if you can acknowledge that many black men grow up in poverty and in violent neighborhoods, in what way is that not psychologically damaging on its own? In which case the bolded sentence is a contradiction. And these neighborhoods are a part of current society and a product of past American society.

 

[ElChoclo]

Most nut cases give plenty of forewarning that they are disturbed, but nobody does anything about them. The media likes to run a story that a mild mannered "normal" person goes out and suddenly does bad things. This is fiction.

It would be unacceptable to admit that serious psycho cases abound in Western industrialized nations, and are largely ignored. This would make society look bad and each member of society would have to accept some blame.

 

[Jaylan]

Firearm Availability and Homicide Rates across High-Income Countries

Abstract for Hemenways 2000 study: http://journals.lww.com/jtrauma/Abs...ilability_and_Homicide_Rates_across_26.1.aspx

Link to his 2002 report: http://scholar.google.com/scholar_u...AGBfm31hCOyytOAvzzbXB4WDY9nR6iGPQ&oi=scholarr

Read it, review it, understand it, and then come back with thought.

 

[betheman]

A tongue in cheek article regarding the right to bear arms debate in the US

http://newsthump.com/2011/01/12/i-m...xisted-in-1791-clarifies-angry-james-madison/

 

[Who Dares Win]

You cannot be serious? Any black man on this forum, let alone any minority can tell you that statement is very wrong. We deal with psychological BS all the time, especially from our women let alone women in general. But the more determined black men seek to keep strong because as a black man in America...better yet, as a black man in any Western country...you want to prove all the negative things people depict you as to be wrong.

Btw, if you can acknowledge that many black men grow up in poverty and in violent neighborhoods, in what way is that not psychologically damaging on its own? In which case the bolded sentence is a contradiction. And these neighborhoods are a part of current society and a product of past American society.

Thats wrong completely, living in poverty in a sane family and with a good group of friends is much better than living in a rich neightbourhood confined in your room with divorced parents and no friends.
The first case could lead you to join a gang, the second case to go on a killing spree at the mall.

If I were to pick I would pick the first one, violence could make the difference according to the intensity of it.
Watching your back from other gangs could decrease your quality(or quantity) of life while having the deafening silence around you drives you to madness, in the fist case you are living through suriving in the second case you are already dieing slowly.
Most of this shooters are driven crazy from a sick family and the lack of connection with people wheter they are women or simply friends, check yourself most of them.

 

[Jaylan]

^You are assuming that the family in poverty is sane with a good group of friends. Many black children, or poor people in general, grow up in broken homes surrounded by a violent neighborhood and not so good friends. So for you to sit and compare that to rich kids, and for you to earlier say that black men dont deal with psychological pressure from society and women is FAR off base and incorrect. You obviously are only seeing things for one perspective.

And at the end of the day, it seems you are expecting us to have sympathy for privileged dudes with first world problems. Gee, Im sure all the guys in this forum sympathize with a kid who grew up in a home with a decent family that had money, got good grades, went to good schools, and was on his way to a great career with good salary, but threw it all away because of his inability to connect with other people. Yeah, thats much worse than the poor kids who grow up around crack and meth, with one of their parents not around, and living in fear of their peers kicking their butt each day.

Do you really not think poor folks dont have much reason to go crazy and shoot up a whole group of people? Because they do. It makes you wonder why its usually someone for a privileged class who does these things. And its generally someone who doesnt make the right effort to connect with people, and will blame others for that failure. Like that guy who went on the female shooting spree a few years ago. Home boy had a nice career and cash, but instead of taking blame for his failures with women...he blamed all women, painted them with the same brush, and shot some. And then you had dudes in the PUA have the audacity to blame women for some loser being a crazy bastard.

Crazy people are crazy, whether they are rich or poor. And you cant blame society for their inability to get help or see things clearly.

 

[Who Dares Win]

^ Im not expecting you anything, I just said that those spree killers have common traits which are unlikely to be a coincidence then I gave my personal explanation for that.

I pointed out how alienation is a much more heavy factor than poverty or violence around, the rest you made up yourself.
Alienation and the weight of that was my point.

Out of topic: how comes you post in every thread except those regarding picking up girls? you pop up only when it comes of minority rights or politics.
Everytime I see you its on topics regarding race/gender issues or mostly in the anything else area, dont take it as a provocation its just legitimate curiosity.