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The "You will die as a lonely, sad, old man!" argument.

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The lonely old man has lost his social circle/support person. I usually see it in widowed men who only maintained their relationship with their now deceased wife. Frequently they ruined their relationship with their children by being overbearing.

On the other hand there are other widow's/widowers who have a big social circle, and a vibrant social life but still don't date. My Maternal Grandmother was one. My gf's mother is another. Men though tend to wall off people to be alone with their grief/helplessness.

The elderly bachelor though maintains a social circle from the get go. That is the difference.
 

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As I walked the isles of the discount grocery store today I saw skimpily-clad women (with their boyfriends/husbands pushing the cart). The whole time I kept thinking how much richer I must be than All of them. At the gas station I saw an AMAZING thin young gal with tight-fitting yoga pants - could see the outline clearly of her moon every time she bent to get something out of the car. When I finally saw her face, eh it was alright, but you KNOW she's getting hit on (already has several) a guy being in her prime. She'll get hers until her early 30s when her as5 begins to go, then she'll only have her Face which is not much though pony-tailed made to "look" cute/younger. You know guys are funding her right now. She'll get a good 10 years outta it, the $20 yoga pants she bought.
 
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Its something i get confronted with from time to time.

How do you guys deal with that topic?

Being married or in LTR doesnt mean you will have (or want) that wife in your last years with you.

Having kids doesnt guarantee they will be there in your later life, though they could.

What does the red-pill-philosophy provide for the elderly?

Does spinning plates become pointless/unsustainable (due to lack of SMV) at some point?

What does the plate spinner do when he doesnt give a f... about f...ing anymore?

Does the plate spinner also hit a wall?

For me the red-pill-philosophy is all about keeping men out of financial and emotional trouble and get them what they want from women. (sex, children)

But what then, when your finances are not in danger anymore, sex is of secondary interrest and you have made your peace with or without kids?
Say to them, "That's my problem. Don't you fret about it.

Or, "I'm finding myself."
 

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Excellent article and its the truth. This mindset is required more than ever.
 

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Awesome - I was looking for this to cite.

I came across some crazy statistics about suicide rates in comparison to age. I didn't find precise/strong sources to post specific numbers here, but the bottom line was that suicide rates go up massively with age. I'm not sure whether this is related. The question that I didn't find an answer to was how suicide rates compare between married/unmarried and kids/no-kids for older men.
 

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In my mid 40s, I no longer have family left. A parent is still livin but is voting Biden so, idk what to say, the mass media has gotten to her. I truly feel alone now in this world as of this week. You can have family still but they're so criss-crossed and deluded that really it's as if they're already dead. My cousins and brothers don't give a sh!t about me, so. It guess it starts this year, don't have to wait until I'm 70 or 80 it's here now, but I do have to interact with people Every day that I am at work so there's that. I guess that's why some hang on to work longer when they should be retiring. I know a few co-worker men who have never married/had children, though already he's got $2500 a month comin in to his coffers from the investments/savings he's made. He's hanging on I think for not having anybody. He could easily retire and wait while on non-retirement funds until he's 62 whatever to draw retirement. One of his ex-girlfriends a single mom of 2 (older) tried to get with me a couple years ago. I outright rejected her. What would I want with a single mom who's not having/incapable of having any kids?
 

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What would I want with a single mom who's not having/incapable of having any kids?
At 37, I'm starting to think about this. I have rarely encountered single moms in my dating sphere over the years. In the Millennial generation, childlessness is quite common. I don't think I'll have too difficult a time in 5 years finding childless 40 year old Millennial women when I'm 42 if I have to date at 42.

I have no interest in a single mom and will continue to date childless women only.
 

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Its something i get confronted with from time to time.

How do you guys deal with that topic?

Being married or in LTR doesnt mean you will have (or want) that wife in your last years with you.

Having kids doesnt guarantee they will be there in your later life, though they could.

What does the red-pill-philosophy provide for the elderly?

Does spinning plates become pointless/unsustainable (due to lack of SMV) at some point?

What does the plate spinner do when he doesnt give a f... about f...ing anymore?

Does the plate spinner also hit a wall?

For me the red-pill-philosophy is all about keeping men out of financial and emotional trouble and get them what they want from women. (sex, children)

But what then, when your finances are not in danger anymore, sex is of secondary interest and you have made your peace with or without kids?
Well, as far as I'm concerned that argument is a big fat lie. instead of wasting my time chasing woman, I am chasing more meaningful things in life, like knowledge, do something that is productive and helpful to other people. I tend to mentor people now when the opportunity presents itself.
You arrive in a point in your life where you realize there is so much more to life than a woman. It's an amazing world out there, take off those sex blinders. You need to have balance in your life.
 

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Its something i get confronted with from time to time.

How do you guys deal with that topic?

Being married or in LTR doesnt mean you will have (or want) that wife in your last years with you.

Having kids doesnt guarantee they will be there in your later life, though they could.

What does the red-pill-philosophy provide for the elderly?

Does spinning plates become pointless/unsustainable (due to lack of SMV) at some point?

What does the plate spinner do when he doesnt give a f... about f...ing anymore?

Does the plate spinner also hit a wall?

For me the red-pill-philosophy is all about keeping men out of financial and emotional trouble and get them what they want from women. (sex, children)

But what then, when your finances are not in danger anymore, sex is of secondary interrest and you have made your peace with or without kids?
I am solution oriented for sourcing women and Dating. I have constantly looked at game and to level up. I have no idea what to do for kids in western society.

If you lack motivation to pull and approach get t checked. Lots of men are suffering issues in late 20s or 30s due to poor Lifestyle choices.
 

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At 37, I'm starting to think about this. I have rarely encountered single moms in my dating sphere over the years. In the Millennial generation, childlessness is quite common. I don't think I'll have too difficult a time in 5 years finding childless 40 year old Millennial women when I'm 42 if I have to date at 42.

I have no interest in a single mom and will continue to date childless women only.
Multiple women top form SMV 18-23 were on podcast talking about their 40 and 50 year old bf. At 40, I am more open to the horizons of the time and Dating pool. Even at forty in less than a decade, i have no interest Dating women late 20s. Classic baby fever.
 

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At 37, I'm starting to think about this. I have rarely encountered single moms in my dating sphere over the years. In the Millennial generation, childlessness is quite common. I don't think I'll have too difficult a time in 5 years finding childless 40 year old Millennial women when I'm 42 if I have to date at 42.

I have no interest in a single mom and will continue to date childless women only.
As a single father with a child left at home....I looked for maternal characteristics in an LTR. The childless 30 year olds were either self absorbed or had animals they treated like their children.
 

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As a single father with a child left at home....I looked for maternal characteristics in an LTR. The childless 30 year olds were either self absorbed or had animals they treated like their children.
I have interacted with many never married, childless 30 something women. More than half have pets, which is annoying. I am also allergic to cats. A lot of never married, childless 30 something women don't have appealing personalities either. Even with that said, I still prefer childless women to single moms.
 

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Reply: "cool." and go about your business. I'm not here to engage with recreational outrage specialists. That's the job of g@y beta males without life experience looking to quarrel.
 

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Aug mate, the hardest part is perspective. You will be staring down the barrel of a loaded shotgun. All your mates are married with kids. You have family cheering you to do the right thing. STAYING POWER is the key. A older Tyler vid he describes the ride. You want off sometimes. Its alienating. Its not the die alone thing but the tribal element that are daunting. From a evolutionary psychology point, it was ideal to follow the herd or die. The herd is to great though individually easily taken out. Following the tribe is safe. In the modern era, it is a death sentence to be a conformist.
 

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Aug mate, the hardest part is perspective. You will be staring down the barrel of a loaded shotgun. All your mates are married with kids. You have family cheering you to do the right thing. STAYING POWER is the key. A older Tyler vid he describes the ride. You want off sometimes. Its alienating. Its not the die alone thing but the tribal element that are daunting. From a evolutionary psychology point, it was ideal to follow the herd or die. The herd is to great though individually easily taken out. Following the tribe is safe. In the modern era, it is a death sentence to be a conformist.
Yes, the world is full of people that want to tell you how to live your life and would love to pass judgement on you.
-Augustus
 
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