The X Factor

[Latinoman]

IMO high Testosterone is the foundation of everything. It gives you the energy & the drive to accomplish your goals. However, I thought that the X factor is something that gives you an unique edge over your competitors. The alpha-beta comparison makes sense, but it doesn't explain why pretty boy type (Johnny Depp, Timberlakes etc.) also does very well with women - and in this day & age, they outdo high-T alphas.

This is just a fun analytical discussion anyway. High-T obviously works and that's what I go with. The whole accent / expressiveness etc. are good to have. Stack the cards in your favour.

Johny Depp, Timberlake, and D'Caprio all of them are also RICH and FAMOUS.

 

[Jitterbug]

If you are PUMPED up with LIFE, you will not likely get rejected on a date. You are different in this sense:

1) You are fun
2) You are not outcome dependent
3) You are in a great mood
4) Your goal is to have a good time
5) You are not concerned about image
6) You feel CONFIDENT in yourself
7) You take CONTROL

The above is a NATURAL state for a guy with higher testosterone levels. You cannot pretend to be the above. This is who you have to GENUINELY be.

The MISTAKE occurs when a guy who has low T tries to behave this way and it appears PHONY.

If it is not GENUINE, who are you fooling?

The GOAL is TO BE , not pretend to be. If you work on the inner CHEMISTRY of the body , your inner game will likely MANIFEST a heightened result on your CHARISMA.

This is spot on. Every girl I've attracted & closed makes the same comment about me: that I have very high energy & I'm always in a great mood & fun to be around. I do a lot of weights, fitness & sports so it's my natural state to be a high energy guy. I tick all 7 in that list. I've never linked it to testosterone though. I just thought that if you have high energy, everything just works. Bad moods & negativity only come when you're tired, not when you're pumped up.

I reckon every newbie should be sent on a fitness boot camp to get fit & strong and boost their T-level, before they start cold-approaching women to practice silly lines.

 

[Jitterbug]

Johny Depp, Timberlake, and D'Caprio all of them are also RICH and FAMOUS.

Oh, I don't mean those guys in particular, just guys who are that type, that I can observe around here. The metrosexual, Paris of Troy type. They seem to do well too.

 

[ketostix]

Johny Depp, Timberlake, and D'Caprio all of them are also RICH and FAMOUS.

And why are they rich and famous? I can see that some wanted to take a T nonsense dump in this thread. But if you're going to debate the hormone T at least address the points I made refuting such a simplistic argument , namely being that normally T levels in males is a dime a dozen. I honestly can't believe that anyone would discuss the significance of a normal fvcking male hormone that every normal male has in high supply as the key to universal attractiveness.

 

[swifTy]

Well you can say sex appeal in place of sexual attraction. What I was trying to do is get at the specific fundamental thing that I believed women were screening men for on sex appeal, and it was her getting visual cues of your smoothness and expressiveness predominately from your facial expression and gestures.

some people just have sex written all over them. thats the X factor.

think angelina jolie; she has those lips, those eyes, that hair, and look at her bone structure. she's pure sex. just by reading her face i know all that i need to know-- thats where the X factor is (her facial markers). i bet she fukks like hell.

she's pretty damm hot in this one

http://www.cinematicwallpaper.com/movie-pictures/wallpapers/Angelina_Jolie_wallpaper/Angelina_Jolie_4.jpg


naked. nuff said

http://www.drago99.com/AngelinaJolie/Angelina%20Jolie%20Naked.jpg



she's just fukn hot. whatever she does. she can just stand there.

http://www.drunkhollywood.com/images/angelina-jolie-not-02.jpg


girls do the same thing and they look for sex cues in your face.

 

[swifTy]

Well you can say sex appeal in place of sexual attraction. What I was trying to do is get at the specific fundamental thing that I believed women were screening men for on sex appeal, and it was her getting visual cues of your smoothness and expressiveness predominately from your facial expression and gestures.

some people just have sex written all over them. thats the X factor.

think angelina jolie; she has those lips, those eyes, that hair, and look at her bone structure. she's pure sex. just by reading her face i know all that i need to know-- thats where the X factor is (her facial markers). i bet she fukks like hell.

she's pretty damm hot in this one

http://www.cinematicwallpaper.com/movie-pictures/wallpapers/Angelina_Jolie_wallpaper/Angelina_Jolie_4.jpg

she's just fukn hot. whatever she does. all she needs to do is just stand there.

http://www.drunkhollywood.com/images/angelina-jolie-not-02.jpg


its all in the face, and its all genetic if you ask me. she also looks like she would be a good mum.

girls look at your face to see if your hot and to see if youd be a good dad.

 

[ketostix]

some people just have sex written all over them. thats the X factor.

think angelina jolie; she has those lips, those eyes, that hair, and look at her bone structure. she's pure sex. just by reading her face i know all that i need to know-- thats where the X factor is (her facial markers). i bet she fukks like hell.

she's pretty damm hot in this one

http://www.cinematicwallpaper.com/movie-pictures/wallpapers/Angelina_Jolie_wallpaper/Angelina_Jolie_4.jpg

she's just fukn hot. whatever she does. all she needs to do is just stand there.

http://www.drunkhollywood.com/images/angelina-jolie-not-02.jpg


its all in the face, and its all genetic if you ask me. she also looks like she would be a good mum.

girls look at your face to see if your hot and to see if youd be a good dad.

OK, I think you may be right about what makes a woman attractive and it's genetic. But I'm still not willing to say that is also true for what makes a man attractive, that the genetically directed face-I call this good symmetry- being the x factor. I still think it's more of the woman picking up visual cues about a guy's mood and persona from his expressions, with symmetry of guys face being a big advantage but maybe not a requirement.

 

[guru1000]

And why are they rich and famous? I can see that some wanted to take a T nonsense dump in this thread. But if you're going to debate the hormone T at least address the points I made refuting such a simplistic argument , namely being that normally T levels in males is a dime a dozen. I honestly can't believe that anyone would discuss the significance of a normal fvcking male hormone that every normal male has in high supply as the key to universal attractiveness.

Keto, you come to the forum with a question "What is the X factor". Yet you discount my ADVICE as MOOT.

"Silly TESTOSTETONE. How could TESTOSTERONE, the DOMINANT male hormone, have such a profound effect in one's life. After all what really separates us from women other than our genitialia."

Yet here you are still wondering what works.

If you needed surgery, would you go to the successful practicing surgeon or the medical student studying?

Truth be told, if you need ANSWERS look to the guys who are successful and experienced.

You say I brag. So if I express to you my success with women on a consistent basis that makes me a NARCISSISTIC bragger.

The bottom line remains the same. I am VERY successful and will continue to do so. I am also a NATURAL. The difference between you and I is I don't THINK but KNOW what works.

I tell you TESTOSTERONE is key. You state it is ridiculous. Yet ALL models have chiseled features and physiques and most of them take testosterone/ GH therapy. Pick up GQ magazine and ask a woman what is attractive.

I am bailing on this thread. To waste my energy on a guy like you is only time consuming. I could only hope a newbie reads this, takes fitness and diet seriously and makes a LIFESTYLE change.

While you continue to INQUIRE on sosuave of what works, I will continue to walk into lounges and have women approach me consistently. Not because I am PRETTY like Leonardo Decaprio but because my lifestyle of hormonal manipulation, diet and exercise gives me MENTAL and PHYSICAL superiority over most men. Having a magazine cover physique sure does not hurt either.

And lastly to address your frivolous question above. The majority of men who do not work out have low-medium TOTAL testosterone levels. It is not the TOTAL T that determines how much T your body will utilize. It is your acting FREE levels of T. If your lifestyle does not include vigorous exercise (sports, working out, job related) , the bulk of the TOTAL T will not bind to receptor sites and will either not be used or AROMATIZE into estrogen. So the key is not how much TOTAL T you have, but FREE binding T. That being said, if you do not have a lifestyle that has consistent exercise of some sort as much as 80% of men can fall victim to LOW FREE T levels.

Good luck on your mission.

 

[ketostix]

Keto, you come to the forum with a question "What is the X factor". Yet you discount my ADVICE as MOOT.

"Silly TESTOSTETONE. How could TESTOSTERONE, the DOMINANT male hormone, have such a profound effect in one's life. After all what really separates us from women other than our genitialia."

Yet here you are still wondering what works.

If you needed surgery, would you go to the successful practicing surgeon or the medical student studying?

Truth be told, if you need ANSWERS look to the guys who are successful and experienced.

You say I brag. So if I express to you my success with women on a consistent basis that makes me a NARCISSISTIC bragger.

The bottom line remains the same. I am VERY successful and will continue to do so. I am also a NATURAL. The difference between you and I is I don't THINK but KNOW what works.

I tell you TESTOSTERONE is key. You state it is ridiculous. Yet ALL models have chiseled features and physiques and most of them take testosterone/ GH therapy. Pick up GQ magazine and ask a woman what is attractive.

I am bailing on this thread. To waste my energy on a guy like you is only time consuming. I could only hope a newbie reads this, takes fitness and diet seriously and makes a LIFESTYLE change.

While you continue to INQUIRE on sosuave of what works, I will continue to walk into lounges and have women approach me consistently. Not because I am PRETTY like Leonardo Decaprio but because my lifestyle of hormonal manipulation, diet and exercise gives me MENTAL and PHYSICAL superiority over most men. Having a magazine cover physique sure does not hurt either.

And lastly to address your frivolous question above. The majority of men who do not work out have low-medium TOTAL testosterone levels. It is not the TOTAL T that determines how much T your body will utilize. It is your acting FREE levels of T. If your lifestyle does not include vigorous exercise (sports, working out, job related) , the bulk of the TOTAL T will not bind to receptor sites and will either not be used or AROMATIZE into estrogen. So the key is not how much TOTAL T you have, but FREE binding T. That being said, if you do not have a lifestyle that has consistent exercise of some sort as much as 80% of men can fall victim to LOW FREE T levels.

Good luck on your mission.

You are wasting my time. You offer no proof of any success, just claims. I might very well pull more girls than you in reality so take your condescending BS elsewhere. And even if you were a very good natural, which I highly doubt, like most naturals you have no clue how you do it yourself and couldn't tell anyone.

You're obsessed with T. Dude how many times do I have to tell you most guys have normal T levels? High T levels will guarantee a more manly or masculine face but does not quarantee a symmetrical or attractive face. Most of this development in regards to your facial structure symmeetry is set in the gene coding and influenced prior to birth and at the out of puberty where just about every normal male is at a very high supply of T.

You don't need to lecture me on free and bound T level. When you have your T level tested they measure both levels.You are way oversimplifing genetics and human development to a point that it is ridiculous. There are lots guys out there with high T, extremely athetic and have advanced graduate degrees that do not do well with women. Diet and exercise can improve what you have but does not directly add a necessary quality that you don't have.