The X Factor

[edger]

These not so good looking guys are probably smooth and expressive.

That's EXACTLY what it is(it has to be), this is what I've been saying around here; it's all about YOUR GAME.

 

[edger]

Having an accent can work wonders though, if you use the accent to your advantage.

ABSOLUTELY. I used to hang with a guy from Florence, Italy, and he had the European Italian accent going, and he used to pull some HOT tail. American women used to eat it up, they would melt. I even seen this dude pull off a bartender once who he ended up nailing.

Any European accent will work, whether it's Italian, Spanish(Spain), Portuguese(Portugal), Greek, English, German, French, Norweigan, etc, etc, etc.

 

[ketostix]

Having an accent can work wonders though, if you use the accent to your advantage. Keep the accent though! There's nothing hotter than a french gal trying to speak english, IMO...and the same goes for men (depending upon the accent).

Just for the record I don't have an accent. I'm american born and raised. But it's not really about accent I was getting at articulation and expressiveness. That can exist along side an accent.

 

[ketostix]

X factor is Testosterone Level.

I have to disagree. High testosterone naturally will give a masculine face but will not guarantee a symmetrical or attractive face. Now test is generally attractive and how it makes you assertive, but research has shown that women are attractied a man with a boyish, femine face too. I think symmetry is the common denominator. Test can wrok for and against you.

 

[ketostix]

I'd say the X factor is a whole bunch of things. the X factor is the whole package. when a girl looks at you (or a guy for that matter) she sums you up and that judgement is your X factor.

everything comes into play. how your voice sounds, your skeltal structures, your face and its expressions, how intelligent you are --> which equates to how interesting you are and how well you can act and think of funny things to say. keto, smell definately counts!! trust me.
its also the way you walk.

its how you present yourself. its how you come across. its the person that you are being. its the IMAGE that you are selling. its the IDENTITY that you are selling. the X factor is all of those things wrapped up. the better that you are at presenting; presenting your image, presenting your identity, the better of you'll do. and to pull it all off you need confidence. if i had to narrow it down i would say what sells you is your IMAGE and your IDENTITY. and thats kind of where personal choice/tastes come in. some girl might be lookin for a certain image/identity and the first guy that shows up and pulls it off confidently will attract her. an e.g. could be the ugly guy but with confidence and balls. aka the hyper masculine man.

i guess it is all about style. finding a style that you are comfortable with and are happy to act out your whole life and stick to it and do it well!

i also think some IMAGE/IDENTITY combinations are better than others and can transcend personal tastes. i think it comes back to how good you are at presenting yourself. how powerful you are. how much presence you have. i know when i enter a room i can take over if i want. ive never met anyone yet who can OUTperform me. If i had to say 3 things why, i would say its my intelligence, good looks, and confidence. if you put those 3 things and you channel it into an IMAGE/IDENTITY combination and you do it well you'll be attractive and you'll have that X factor.

OK I'm not saying this is bad stuff you're saying, but it's the opposite of the x factor. You are throwing everything in like it's Prego. We all know guys who aren't all that intelligent who do much better than intelligent guys. You're not rank ordering the attributes one could have. A guy doesn't have to have everything to be successful. A guy can have just about everything but not have what I call the x-factor, symmetry and expressiveness, and do poorly. Another guy can have almost nothing going for him besides symmetry and expressive or the x-factor and be very successful.

 

[ketostix]

That's EXACTLY what it is(it has to be), this is what I've been saying around here; it's all about YOUR GAME.

Yeah that's basically what I'm saying if you take out symmetry. But my point is game as we usually understand it is about word choice, conveying a certain attitude and tactics but that's not the game that causes universal attraction in accordance with the x factor. These guys that have the x factor are smooth and might even go against everything in the PU book and attract more girls. That's not to say the game tactics we commonly know and use don't work. I'm saying they aren't what cause initial interest and attraction, they can only amplify it at best. It's the having the x factor that causes attraction.

 

[edger]

Mr. Positive, my buddy in Italy even told me when American women vacation in Italy, he bangs lots of them.

 

[Jitterbug]

Mr. Positive, my buddy in Italy even told me when American women vacation in Italy, he bangs lots of them.

American women get porked everywhere they travel, mate. Easy targets.

 

[ketostix]

American women get porked everywhere they travel, mate. Easy targets.

Yeah I think you're right. And when foreign guys come heer to america almost all of them are a miserable failure. As far as I can remember they always say even their own women back home are easier to get.

 

[Jitterbug]

And when foreign guys come heer to america almost all of them are a miserable failure.

I'm just going by examples in Australia, but it depends on the foreign guys. The novelty factor plus the fact that they'll be out of town shortly can be irresistible to women who want a taste of the exotic without having to leave the comfort of their own town. I hung out with a few European guys who picked up here with ease. Usually the women just offer themselves (many are already in a relationship or married).

 

[guru1000]

I have to disagree. High testosterone naturally will give a masculine face but will not guarantee a symmetrical or attractive face. Now test is generally attractive and how it makes you assertive, but research has shown that women are attractied a man with a boyish, femine face too. I think symmetry is the common denominator. Test can wrok for and against you.

I disagree with PROVEN results.

My results are not important here. The truth is.

Testosterone will give your face an appearance of high cheek bones with a chiseled hard jaw line. It will as well make your chin look stronger. The reasons behind this are both hormonal and muscular enhanced (Your face has muscular development)

One trademark of MODEL good looks is high cheek bones along with a good jaw line. This is what T will ENHANCE.

The boyish feminine face is just as attactive to women as a MASCULINE developed face. Every women has their type of GOOD LOOKS. The consensus opinion is the GQ LOOK which is high cheek bones with a masculine strong jawline.

However, that is not the reason why Testosterone is the MISSING INGREDIENT.

Testosterone is the 104 gasoline in your engine. You snooze, you lose.

ALPHA vs BETA. What is the REAL difference between the two?

I wish I had the time to explain furthur but I have a beautiful model that needs to be picked up and take my HIGH TESTOSTERONE A** to dinner.

 

[ketostix]

I disagree with PROVEN results.

My results are not important here. The truth is.

Testosterone will give your face an appearance of high cheek bones with a chiseled hard jaw line. It will as well make your chin look stronger. The reasons behind this are both hormonal and muscular enhanced (Your face has muscular development)

One trademark of MODEL good looks is high cheek bones along with a good jaw line. This is what T will ENHANCE.

The boyish feminine face is just as attactive to women as a MASCULINE developed face. Every women has their type of GOOD LOOKS. The consensus opinion is the GQ LOOK which is high cheek bones with a masculine strong jawline.

However, that is not the reason why Testosterone is the MISSING INGREDIENT.

Testosterone is the 104 gasoline in your engine. You snooze, you lose.

ALPHA vs BETA. What is the REAL difference between the two?

I wish I had the time to explain furthur but I have a beautiful model that needs to be picked up and take my HIGH TESTOSTERONE A** to dinner.

Lots of guys have high testosterone levels since puberty, but aren't models and aren't symmetrical. A lot of them are even in prison too.

 

[guru1000]

The other guy might actually be at a disadvantage in almost every noticable way, e.g, in height, fitness, style, game etc but still have much better success with women.

First you say this.

Lots of guys have high testosterone levels since puberty, but aren't models and aren't symmetrical.

Never said they were. Relate the two quotes.

A lot of them are even in prison too.

You were relating to higher testosterone levels and you are correct.

This is the trademark of the highly successful businessman as well. Why do both the criminal and successful businessman have success with women?

 

[ketostix]

This is is the trademark of the highly successful businessman as well. Why do both the criminal and successful businessman have success with women?

Well you have a point but the problem is most criminals are not successful with women despite having high testosterone.

 

[wolf116]

Also, High testosterone levels as a fetus are way more important then current levels in relation to your overall development.

 

[swifTy]

Also, High testosterone levels as a fetus are way more important then current levels in relation to your overall development.

...and its not just about testosterone. think pretty boys like orlando bloom, johnny depp, and leonardo dicaprio. you want a mix of both masculine and feminine. a guy like leo will always outshine a guy whose just all testosterone.

the X factor (what turns heads) is your IMAGE plus your PERFORMANCE. your X factor is how much can you shine? if you get put in a room with johnny depp or leo or whoever you want, how do you reckon you'll stack up? thats what its about. how noticed are you? and theres a lot of ways to GET NOTICED... the more you got... the better. your IMAGE includes your face, your skeletal structure, your clothes, your hairstyle and your PERFORMANCE is how you walk, how you talk, how you act, the expressions you use, tha sort of thing.

 

[STR8UP]

I think anyone who is having trouble with pick up needs to basically learn how to be expressive like a good actor.

The times in my life where I have sparked spontaneous attraction from women were when I was a "character" the second we first met. Nothing gets the juices flowing like having a gregarious, outgoing, expressive personality.

 

[guru1000]

The times in my life where I have sparked spontaneous attraction from women were when I was a "character" the second we first met. Nothing gets the juices flowing like having a gregarious, outgoing, expressive personality.

the X factor (what turns heads) is your IMAGE plus your PERFORMANCE. your X factor is how much can you shine? if you get put in a room with johnny depp or leo or whoever you want, how do you reckon you'll stack up? thats what its about. how noticed are you? and theres a lot of ways to GET NOTICED... the more you got... the better. your IMAGE includes your face, your skeletal structure, your clothes, your hairstyle and your PERFORMANCE is how you walk, how you talk, how you act, the expressions you use, tha sort of thing.

Yes and Yes.

To explain furthur, when I address TESTOSTERONE , physical attraction is a very small percentage of it.

If you take two guys that are equal in the looks department and put them both out there in the field; one with low testosterone and the other with high. Which of the two will SUCCEED better?

WHY?

Nothing is more mundane to a woman than a guy with no personality. You will often hear from women , that guys who are better looking are dead beats. Most good looking guys do not feel a need to DEVELOP their personality to a woman. Their looks alone could open the door.

This is the avenue where most average looking men COULD succeed. They come in, SPIN the girl off her feet and show her a great time.

If you are PUMPED up with LIFE, you will not likely get rejected on a date. You are different in this sense:

1) You are fun
2) You are not outcome dependent
3) You are in a great mood
4) Your goal is to have a good time
5) You are not concerned about image
6) You feel CONFIDENT in yourself
7) You take CONTROL

The above is a NATURAL state for a guy with higher testosterone levels. You cannot pretend to be the above. This is who you have to GENUINELY be.

The MISTAKE occurs when a guy who has low T tries to behave this way and it appears PHONY.

If it is not GENUINE, who are you fooling?

The GOAL is TO BE , not pretend to be. If you work on the inner CHEMISTRY of the body , your inner game will likely MANIFEST a heightened result on your CHARISMA.

 

[ketostix]

Yes and Yes.

To explain furthur, when I address TESTOSTERONE , physical attraction is a very small percentage of it.

If you take two guys that are equal in the looks department and put them both out there in the field; one with low testosterone and the other with high. Which of the two will SUCCEED better?

WHY?

Nothing is more mundane to a woman than a guy with no personality. You will often hear from women , that guys who are better looking are dead beats. Most good looking guys do not feel a need to DEVELOP their personality to a woman. Their looks alone could open the door.

This is the avenue where most average looking men COULD succeed. They come in, SPIN the girl off her feet and show her a great time.

If you are PUMPED up with LIFE, you will not likely get rejected on a date. You are different in this sense:

1) You are fun
2) You are not outcome dependent
3) You are in a great mood
4) Your goal is to have a good time
5) You are not concerned about image
6) You feel CONFIDENT in yourself
7) You take CONTROL

The above is a NATURAL state for a guy with higher testosterone levels. You cannot pretend to be the above. This is who you have to GENUINELY be.

The MISTAKE occurs when a guy who has low T tries to behave this way and it appears PHONY.

If it is not GENUINE, who are you fooling?

The GOAL is TO BE , not pretend to be. If you work on the inner CHEMISTRY of the body , your inner game will likely MANIFEST a heightened result on your CHARISMA.

I have to totally disagree. There are so many guy that have high normal level of testosterone. There's nothing remarkable about being a male and having high testosterone levels. Guys that juice up become aggressive and anti-social a lot of times.

 

[ketostix]

...and its not just about testosterone. think pretty boys like orlando bloom, johnny depp, and leonardo dicaprio. you want a mix of both masculine and feminine. a guy like leo will always outshine a guy whose just all testosterone.

Totally agree there is a normal range for testosterone. As long as you aren't low and are in the normal range, you're male and you got this aspect covered. More important is your overall general health, fitness and energy level which has a lot more aspects than just one hormone's level. There are several hormones that are important besides just test. Also research has shown that females are attracted to guys with "feminine" and boyish looks. The common demoninator between an attractive/unattractive masculine face or attractive/unattractive "feminine" face is symmetry.

the X factor (what turns heads) is your IMAGE plus your PERFORMANCE. your X factor is how much can you shine? if you get put in a room with johnny depp or leo or whoever you want, how do you reckon you'll stack up? thats what its about. how noticed are you? and theres a lot of ways to GET NOTICED... the more you got... the better.

I agree this is a result of having the x factor, but it's not what causes the result or the x factor itself.

your IMAGE includes your face, your skeletal structure, your clothes, your hairstyle and your PERFORMANCE is how you walk, how you talk, how you act, the expressions you use, tha sort of thing.

OK I agree but you're taking it further than what I'm trying to do. Clothes and hairstyle are add ons that make no difference without the x factor foundation. I'm starting to lean towards having a symmetrical and good looking face is a big bonus but may not be a necessity if you are expressive. But when you mentioned PERFORMANCE being how you talk, how you act and the expressions you use, this is exactly what I mean by x factor.