"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The wole thing backwards....

Ebach

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Dude, you're talking to her about stuff that usually girlsfriends talk about. What's the deal with you being in Arizona for honeymoon? Jeez... that won't get you *****.

She's just messing around with you because she knows she can. If this was my house, I would kick her out the door. If you want to be friends, that's cool, but otherwise she has no place around you, messing with your head like that. Make it clear to her that she is not allowed to do that and if she does it again you'll take some measures.

Doesn't help much when your roommate is her friend either. I bet she spills a bunch of **** about you to her friends and that's not cool. That's why I don't like to share stuff with chicks whose friends I'm thinking of ****ing around.

If you go out with this type of girl she'll share everything with her friends about you, how you're a loser, how excited you get when she licks her lips and all that ****. That's not cool. Don't share much with this type of girls.

Now those sweet, innocent, loyal chicks, that's another story. Still don't share feelings but you can be assured they won't share nasty stories with their friends.

It's all about respect.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Ebach,
i totally agree with what you say man. why did i talk about that kind of **** in bed ? i was wasted off my arse and she was talkingso i just kept it going ? definately a mistake. i know ! had never had a single friggon conversation with this girl ever, before that night either...i think i prolly felt obligated to talk about SOME personal **** like that since i was spending the night with what a Dont get me wrong, i didnt mean half the ****.... just stuff i made up.

Walking over me.... meh. i WAS confused over her. but im preety sure i know what shes about now.... and yes..... im running :). i literally have no interest in her, and i wont be doing any flirting....talking yes... just to keep it friendly since we do have some common friends, but thats it.
And as far as respect..... hmmm...she is a hoe lol. and whats worse,ppl have actually given her one of those 'clutty' nickname(that rhymes with her real name). NO, respect is what this girl knows nothing about.....probably cause she has never had any herself, so im not too bothered about what she feels/thinks about me anymore.
For some reason, i feel releived. :D
Thanks for your help ppl :)
 

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CONFIRM:
shes a hoe....and an attention hoe. She hooked up and probably went all the way with a random guy who happened to be at her apartment last night.

Thanks for all your advice.... i appreciate it. guess i was a little blinded to the fact that shes a hoe.

Ciao :)
 

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UPDATE:
just thought i should update you guys on the situation with this girl. And maybe get some feedback/suggestions.

Been seeing her around now-n-then, nothing interesting.As mentioned before shes good friends with one of my roommates, but she dosent come over at all anymore, as opposed to being over almost everyday when we had hooked up. ive been over to her place a couple of times cause im friends with her roommates. As always, shes all touchy feely...massaging my back, brushing my hair, etc. ive basically learned not to think anything of it, and dont return the 'affection' so she usually gets the message and cuts it down.

Was over at her place, cause me n her roommate whos a good friend had decided we wanted to go on a small camptrip, so apparently she n a whole bunch of her group were going as well. Didnt bother me too much. Just hung out for a little while, and she gotsa interrogating me about hookingup/dating ppl who live as close as we do...
Her:my aunt told me never to date anyone who lives in the same area as you do. What do you think about that befuddled ?(rather direct since we were talking in a group)
Me:(talking to other person)...... yeah i had a bad experience with that. The girl lived across me, n ended up getting in bed with my roommate. it was...very awkward after that.
Her:'really ? yeah...the ppl would always be over all the time, n stuff'
Me:'preety much'

a little later, watching TV and talking about dying hair, which i wasnt really participating in:
(i dont know why i said it, it just came out).
Me:im really attracted to redheads for some reason. they just turn me on...dont know why.(talking to everyone)
Her: hmm..really ? :) i was thinking of dying my hair red. i cant wait to see your reaction.
Me:(thinking...... Befuddled...your an idiot)

a little later, asking for advice on what to get my roommate. (asking her roommate)
Her: well something from the body shop would be nice.
Me: umm...ok.never been in one of those. someones gonna probably have to go with me.
Her: yeah i can go with you.
Me: sure, you wanna go tomorrow ?
Her:no, im working tomorrow, but for sure on Saturday or Sunday.
Me:hmm...k. not sure.

ended up going with another friend of mine to get the gift.

a more recent encounter:
5 of us watching movie at my apartment. hadnt planned on asking her over, but her roomie had the DVD player we needed, so had to invite them over. she put on a rather low clevage top and got dolled up and came over. which was rather surprising cause she looked like she was ready for bed when i went over. She asked me to sit with her, i just sat at the back of the room and said i preferred the back of the room(more comfortable....trust me). Managed to accidentally doze off, and end up feeling her hand on my leg waking me up. She kept looking back at me, and i didnt pay any attention at all, just coldly stared at the television, cause had no intention of hooking up or playing any games. Then out of nowhere, she says...."Befuddleds all quite sitting b ack there n looking pretty."...kinda weird. At the end of the movie she gets up, and of all theings bends over right in front of me reveling a LOT of clevage, and observing my reaction.....what can i say i'm a guy.....it's instinct. but i didnt pay too much attention.

I decided to cancle the camptrip, cause the ppl i wanted to hang out with had backed out as well. And i didnt want to be the only guy there with this girl n her friends.(about a week ago)

At a party i almost hooked up with one of her roomies, totally unintentional, cause i saw her as just a friend. i backed out immediately when a friend told me what was going on (alcohol). At one point i was grinding with her n her roommate. At that point, me n my buds just left the party.

Am i handling this alright ? i dont want to come off as a prick, but at the same time i dont want to be her attention *****.

Any thoughts or suggestions on what i can do better would be great.

Cheers
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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hey guys.
So here's the deal...
that weekend, she hooked up with one of the other guys. not a big deal (about 6-8 weeks ago).

So she drives me n some other friends back from the bar...was totally drunk.She drives me back and helps me upto my room, and comes in and we're all hugging. i ask her if she wants to spend the night. she smiles and says no...so i ask...u sure ? shes like yes. so i break it off and pass out.

Shes been coming to my room and massaging me quite often, which i like. But then she started *****ing to me about this other guy ( i dint know about him n her until she started *****ing to me about him). That got me pretty uncomfortable, so i told her she was a huge flirt and thats probably why hes pissed off. walked out of my room and left her in there.
She really gets all touchy feely with me...walked into the bar last night...got her tits on my arm, her arms around me and her kissing my cheek. all while this other guy is about 10 yards away....kinda pissed me off. i dont know what to do.
 
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