She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Luke Skywalker said:What makes it a female term?
A guy that has never been inside a woman before is a virgin, just like a woman that never had a man inside her is a virgin.
Why so certain its looks that's preventing people from having sex? I know people who look like Brad yet still don't know how to talk to women.The Logical Player said:I am honestly dumbfounded, at how men/boys who very very clearly need improvement in the appearance department, are just plain ignorant to the FACT that success is a trickle-down effect, and until YOU FEEL that you look like hot shyt, you will not have the success that you are after
and this is where we have these obviously wise-cracking internet virgins, as if posting a photo on this forum will somehow make their lives worse (its not like they have women in their life, so who are they afraid will see the shyt they post? And its not like women even visit this site!).
I used to look like shyt, and then I improved that on the advice of my best friend at the time. Clearly, those of you who know what to do and how to do it, but still have ZERO sex (aka still are a virgin), those are the ones who need to start taking this thread seriously, post your photos up, and I will give each of you a genuine breakdown of what needs to be done to boost up your appearance to the point where you look in the mirror, and you WANT to go out and share your c$ck with some lucky girl
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
DonJuan11 said:Why so certain its looks that's preventing people from having sex? I know people who look like Brad yet still don't know how to talk to women.
It is a little suspicious that you are so focused on looks and desperately want pictures posted of people so you can help them score with girls. You don't care about anything else, the way they talk, their education, their family, you just want pictures. Something is not right.
I agree that they are some people with good looks that still have girl troubles sometimes it goes beyond your gear. I also believe that most virgins do have a appearance problem though and that is only a reflection of their state of mind. Logical are you and elstud brothers? If I needed any fashion tips I would probably ask dj dan because he showed every1 proof of his fashion sense and posted pictures.DonJuan11 said:Why so certain its looks that's preventing people from having sex? I know people who look like Brad yet still don't know how to talk to women.
I must say I'm impressed. I would never have guessed our posts would have an impact on your thinking luke. You have no idea how much of a big step you just made. Good luck!Luke Skywalker said:March 3, 2009. This is the continuation of a virtual story or account of myself on here. It transcends any threads that may have been closed off (Renewed Goals thread, or even long and winding threads such as 'Quest to Get Laid', Lessons Learned this Year', etc...) Now this can be posted on to any thread. This one is selected.
I've decided that I'm a virgin because of my set-up, or my c0ckblocking parents rather than not being attractive to women or being rejected (although I don't feel I'm a stud, successful or get high-interest from most attractive and sane women which doesn't help). I don't feel posting a picture on here is going to help as long as my parents are pulling the strings of who I'm going out with or my dating life as a whole. Plus, the econonomy is bad, have to focus on where I'm going business-wise and feel women are simply a distraction.
So for starters, I know what I'm going to do:
1) Stop talking about my love life with my mom or asking mom permission (or dad) of who to see or date.
2) Record any instance where I'm 'hiding behind my mom or dad' as to avoid potential rejection from women -- that's usually a personal vice. Will look for excuses to stick to parents and avoid women.
3) Consider new activities where I could meet women, without consulting parents about them, other than saying I'm going wherever.
4) Do not ask mom persmission to eat any food at home or to do any stupid thing where I feel I need my mom's moral support to protect myself from over-indulgence (i.e. eating too much in the home, or otherwise having fun in here), or in other ways act like a child and hug her too many times.
******
I'm fully committed to breaking the addiction of fully relying on my parents emotionally and psychologically.
Daddy The Pimp said:Man i know that you're just trying to help , but noone will post here a picture unless you post some of yours that prove that you're the player that you're saying.
Also , unfortunately , most of these peoples are KBJ. They don't want self-improvement ,they don't want anything that will cost them time and dedication. They only want to read and INSTANTLY become good with women. Or read to boost their EGO's , to make themselves think " I KNOW ALOT ABOUT WOMENS , I HAVE GAME ".
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
I personally think he's gay. :flowers:Solomon said:lol @ these "players" infesting the board, lol @ the OP, ha ha ha
is it just me or is he a troll?
The Original Poster is a troll. Less than week on this forum and he is already talking down on everybody?its a little suspicious that you post like a know-it-all despite being an adult virgin.
you don't want help dweeb? then get off this forum
what the f*ck you doing in this place if you aren't seeking TRUE HELP in getting women?
same goes for the rest of you who fall into the know-it-all virgin catergory
and this thread isnt about ME posting pics, i could post dozens of pics, but the topic at hand is PHOTOS OF VIRGINS FOR ME TO HELP THEM IMPROVE THEIR APPEARANCE - IN OTHER WORDS FOR ME TO PIMP UP THEIR APPEARANCE
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
1) wtf?Luke Skywalker said:So for starters, I know what I'm going to do:
1) Stop talking about my love life with my mom or asking mom permission (or dad) of who to see or date.
2) Record any instance where I'm 'hiding behind my mom or dad' as to avoid potential rejection from women -- that's usually a personal vice. Will look for excuses to stick to parents and avoid women.
3) Consider new activities where I could meet women, without consulting parents about them, other than saying I'm going wherever.
4) Do not ask mom persmission to eat any food at home or to do any stupid thing where I feel I need my mom's moral support to protect myself from over-indulgence (i.e. eating too much in the home, or otherwise having fun in here), or in other ways act like a child and hug her too many times.
******
I'm fully committed to breaking the addiction of fully relying on my parents emotionally and psychologically.
lol no idea. I just try to make sure their color fits my clothes.MisterMcGee said:are those socks cotton?
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.