"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The Velocity Of Chad

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As said, I am, in many respects a traditionally/classically handsome guy, and I've known(no, not in the Biblical sense) many more like myself. Even we have parts of ourselves which are below par* that we have to overcome. To your other points: People stop being nice to attractive guys, when we stop putting the most basic efforts into ourselves. No one's smiling at me, when I walk into a restaurant wearing a rumpled T shirt covered in spaghetti stains, with my hair uncombed



*Famous example: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/rest-in-peace-val.283885/#post-3162414 When dude first arrived on the scene, derogatory remarks about his somewhat wonky teeth existed side by side with praise for his strong jaw and chiseled face
We get away with less because good looking men are held to higher standards- so I either go out looking really put together or I rock sweats with a backwards hat - either way it works - keep that skin fresh and young my brother in Chad it’s a get out of jail free card
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Here’s my list of what attracts women, in order.

1. Psychopathy, anti-social behavior✔, daredevil activity, violence✔, criminality✔.
2. Status (can be money✔), social adroitness✔, popularity✔, being in the clique✔, proximity and repeated interaction (eg, work✔, school).
3. Looks.✔

Women override good looking men for the others all the time.
I do check a lot of these. If you want to live in general chaos, end up alone, get into increasingly more problematic situations with the law and privately, this is certainly the cheat sheet for the way to do it. I’m trying to pair back on this but it did achieve what you are saying.
 

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We get away with less because good looking men are held to higher standards- so I either go out looking really put together or I rock sweats with a backwards hat - either way it works - keep that skin fresh and young my brother in Chad it’s a get out of jail free card
Yeah, and as mentioned elsewhere https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/what-happened-to-today-women.284338/#post-3163275 many(hell, perhaps MOST)men who we see as Chads/Chad-esque DO NOT begin life that way. One's looks are like an opera singer's voice: You still have to cultivate and refine whatever perks The Almighty blessed you with
 

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I do check a lot of these. If you want to live in general chaos, end up alone, get into increasingly more problematic situations with the law and privately, this is certainly the cheat sheet for the way to do it. I’m trying to pair back on this but it did achieve what you are saying.
Yes. Hence why most men should go with category 2 EARLY in life if they aren’t lucky enough to have parents who help in the category.
 

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It may help you with some career choices...
Even in vocations like acting, attractive men won't enjoy long careers, if they confine themselves to playing typical leading men*. Very few can be textbook movie stars in the vein of Tom Cruise, George Clooney, The Rock, and(to a lesser extent)Denzel Washington. Even here, how long such fellas can keep it going remains to be seen...

Now that TC has finally admitted he's no longer physically capable of doing what he did in The 80s and 90s(and that it'dve probably been wise to lay off the action hero schtick sometime around '10), and has long since aged out of playing run-of-the- mill romantic leads, does he really have the dramatic chops to pull off character driven roles? Clooney's believability as a relentlessly suave man about town is already in decline... Will that even exist at all in less than a decade, when dude's in his 70s? Washington seems to recognize that he's stretched his matinee idol status as far as he can, and is thus transitioning into both Bible thumping and behind the scenes work

So yeah, your handsomeness can definitely become a bind, same way women's beauty is often simultaneously both a blessing and jinx



*This isn't even an especially original observation: As far back as the early 20th Century, James Mason and the like were breaking the mold https://m.imdb.com/title/tt11310856/ by playing villains and morally complicated characters, rather than standard heroic heart throbs
 
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“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Even in vocations like acting, attractive men won't enjoy long careers, if they confine themselves to playing typical leading men*. Very few can be textbook movie stars in the vein of Tom Cruise, George Clooney, The Rock, and(to a lesser extent)Denzel Washington. Even here, how long such fellas can keep it going remains to be seen...

Now that TC has finally admitted he's no longer physically capable of doing what he did in The 80s and 90s(and that it'dve probably been wise to lay off the action hero schtick sometime around '10), and has long since aged out of playing run-of-the- mill romantic leads, does he really have the dramatic chops to pull off character driven roles? Clooney's believability as a relentlessly suave man about town is already in decline... Will that even exist at all in less than a decade, when dude's in his 70s? Washington seems to recognize that he's stretched his matinee idol status as far as he can, and is thus transitioning into both Bible thumping and behind the scenes work

So yeah, your handsomeness can definitely become a bind, same way women's beauty is often simultaneously both a blessing and jinx



*This isn't even an especially original observation: As far back as the early 20th Century, James Mason and the like were breaking the mold https://m.imdb.com/title/tt11310856/ by playing villains and morally complicated characters, rather than standard heroic heart throbs


If you think male leading actors have it bad; now do the women.
 

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What's said there("Glamour has it's drawbacks... Be prepared to face suspicion that you're overhyped and costing off your looks alone")is applicable for our purposes also:

If most categorize you as a not bad looking fella, be prepared to work hard at demonstrating that your MORE than just another bland flavor of the month
 
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What's said there("Glamour has it's drawbacks... Be prepared to face suspicion that you're overhyped and costing off your looks alone")is applicable for our purposes also:

If most categorize you as a not bad looking fella, be prepared to work hard at demonstrating that your MORE than just another bland flavor of the month
If people call you ‘not bad looking’. You are not handsome. If you are good looking. People will straight up tell you.
And.
If you are GL. Life is on Easy Mode. People don’t throw up roadblocks. Rather. They open doors. The looks halo is real.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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People don’t throw up roadblocks
Resentment over things we ourselves have no control over(the counteance were born with included)often prompts those who possess such resentments to behave in really sh-t-y ways
 

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We get away with less because good looking men are held to higher standards...
It's not a coincidence that Johnny Depp's personal and professional life went to sh-t, when he started letting himself go physically. Compare his troubles with Josh Brolin, who was arrested for punching out Diane Lane during their brief marriage, yet suffered little to no career reversal, went on to marry and produce offspring with some hottie almost 30 years his junior

Brolin doesn't look like a geriatric hobo who sleeps in a dumpster, Depp does. Ain't surprising then that the public only extended their benefit of the doubt to the former of these two
 

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Unless you’re poaching their women, guys treat GL guys well. You underestimate the halo effect.
Poaching, lol Their women may be throwing themselves on you in front of them. They going to make sure their SO don't meet you if they are good with you or they don't have a SO in the first place, lol
 

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This guy is not going to have any trouble in the dating market.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Poaching, lol Their women may be throwing themselves on you in front of them. They going to make sure their SO don't meet you if they are good with you or they don't have a SO in the first place, lol
I had an amusing experience. I was at work and this cute girl I had never seen before was sitting in the breakroom. I started chatting her up and we were talking & joking around. A coworker, a butch lesbian, came in and sat down. I noticed she gave us some hard looks. I knew her, and she'd always been pleasant in the past, so it was a bit odd, but I didn't think anything of it. After several more minutes, the butch got up and barked: 'We gotta go!' The girl I was talking to looked startled, then embarrassed. Got up, smiled and said 'I have to leave now. Nice meeting you'. And the two left. Some of my co-workers, who had been in the break room started laughing. 'You were hitting on Jan's girlfriend right in front of her.'
 

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I had an amusing experience. I was at work and this cute girl I had never seen before was sitting in the breakroom. I started chatting her up and we were talking & joking around. A coworker, a butch lesbian, came in and sat down. I noticed she gave us some hard looks. I knew her, and she'd always been pleasant in the past, so it was a bit odd, but I didn't think anything of it. After several more minutes, the butch got up and barked: 'We gotta go!' The girl I was talking to looked startled, then embarrassed. Got up, smiled and said 'I have to leave now. Nice meeting you'. And the two left. Some of my co-workers, who had been in the break room started laughing. 'You were hitting on Jan's girlfriend right in front of her.'
I'm shocked they didn't invite you to do a threesome. That means you are a chad-light then.
 

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If a guy is a Pretty Boy, he’ll likely get tested /tooled by other dudes. As he looks ‘soft’.

if a guy is Handsome he’ll likely be treated as an Alpha Male by other dudes and notsomuch.

both will have problems with other GL alpha type guys who assess them as competition for women. As mating is a competition.

someone mentioned masculinity - @Thebestthereeveris. A very handsome and fit Alpha Chad type guy is akin to a ‘thoroughbred Stallion.’ His looks are top tier ‘masculine’. So everyone will project ‘masculinity’ onto him, from his looks.

and he will likely be highly masculine, and alpha in his behaviours. As he comes from a long line of such men. Most likely. And will be born into an upper class. So this all nexes your points unfortunately.

Baron- you keep pushing this idea for some reason.
There is plenty evidence of all of this in the Real World.

lesser looking dudes have to work harder …and that’s just the way it is.

have you read the book ‘Blink’ by Malcolm Gladwell? He lays all of this out in detail re ‘Value’ , Thin Slicing etc.etc
 

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@Cheeky_James "have you read the book ‘Blink’ by Malcolm Gladwell?"

He spends a few hundred pages celebrating the alleged virtues of mistaking our initial impressions for Gospel Truths, and not surprisingly, damned near all of his assertions crumble under even mild scrutiny
 

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I had an amusing experience. I was at work and this cute girl I had never seen before was sitting in the breakroom. I started chatting her up and we were talking & joking around. A coworker, a butch lesbian, came in and sat down. I noticed she gave us some hard looks. I knew her, and she'd always been pleasant in the past, so it was a bit odd, but I didn't think anything of it. After several more minutes, the butch got up and barked: 'We gotta go!' The girl I was talking to looked startled, then embarrassed. Got up, smiled and said 'I have to leave now. Nice meeting you'. And the two left. Some of my co-workers, who had been in the break room started laughing. 'You were hitting on Jan's girlfriend right in front of her.'

just an fyi, lesbian couples are the most toxic...
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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